I’m a freshman at Penn State, and I’m asian american. I initially was very excited about coming to Happy Valley, but over the course of this past year I can’t help but notice the amount of racism, subtle and obvious, going on in this area, which has made me consider transferring next year (fall 2017). So I was wondering what colleges you guys think are best for asian americans
What state/city did you grow up in? Most of the California schools are pretty diverse.
Not sure about the avoiding racism part, but here is a list of schools with higher percentages of Asian students.
http://www.■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■/lists/list/colleges-with-the-highest-percentage-of-asian-students/2361/
@lkg4answers diverse? you mean nearly 50% asian with thousands of chinese international students?
@johnpfc3 http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/campus-ethnic-diversity
@lkg4answers look at the methodology of the study. international students (which are over 13% of UC’s population) are not factored and nearly all of those are chinese nationals in the UC system. take a look at this and tell me that 40% asian is a diverse number.
https://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/infocenter/fall-enrollment-glance
My comment was “Most schools in California are pretty diverse.” I’m not sure how you took that to be a statement about the UC system. California is fortunate to have many schools, both public and private.
This might be better answered with the question of what else are you looking for in a college and what bothered you about your environment in Penn State?
@lkg4answers in that case, it was a blanket statement proven false by the lack of diversity of the UC system
What quota would you suggest for the Asians to meet your diversity goal?
@johnpfc3, most people would say that a school /organization that is 40% white and 60℅ non-white is very diverse. So how is a school that is 40% Asian and 60% non-Asian not diverse?
@hebegebe @PurpleTitan there is no formula to acheive diversity, but considering asians are less than 6% of the US population, yet nearly 50% of the UC system (over 3 times the proportion of asians in california) there is clearly an imbalance that exists in that one cannot call the school diverse. the level of diversity should be ideal when the schools population ROUGHLY mirrors the demographics of the US rather than being an aim to have as few whites as possible.
You should not expect California schools to have that many white students. In California, the white (non-Latino) population is not even the largest race/ethnicity (the Latino population is), and the white population is generally older (so the college age cohort should be expected to have fewer white people and more Latino and Asian people).
Yes, among domestic students, Asian students are overrepresented, but that is almost certainly an artifact of the immigration system that causes immigrants from Asia to be high-educational-attainment (graduate student visas, skilled worker visas). As parents, such immigrants tend to give their kids favorable nature and nurture with respect to the kids’ educational attainment.
@johnpfc3, I don’t see why diversity has to mean proportionality.
Is the NBA not diverse, then? It clearly has an over-representation of African-Americans (and under-representation of Hispanics and Asians).
And yes, even if you are arguing for proportionality, you can’t use the demographics of the country of the whole when you’re talking about CA publics.
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@ucbalumnus even relative to the CA demographics, asians are overrepresented by a factor of 3 and not all students in UC schools are from california. nearly 10% (and growing) are from elsewhere in the United States, yet even with that there still exists an overwhelming overrepresentation of asians in the school system.
And thats all I’m arguing here haha that asians are overrepresented and thus the UC system is not diverse. I’m not really seeing where you’re disagreeing with me unless you didn’t actually read my arguments.
@PurpleTitan Of course the NBA is not diverse, are you crazy?? 75% of players are black and 0.2% are asian! But I’m not arguing that there needs to be mandated diversity, I’m simply pointing out the over representation of minorities in certain institutions and the resulting hypocrisy when people for some reason continue to spew “white privilege” BS.
@johnpfc3: Huh? Nobody mentioned white privilege on this thread, so why did you bring that up?
And what is diversity in your mind? To me, when no ethnic group is an overwhelming majority (as is the case at the UCs), you have diversity.
So would you say the NFL is diverse?
Rice
Rutgers
U Washington
UT-Dallas
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Illinois
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@PurpleTitan Ok so according to your logic the NBA is not diverse considering blacks consist of over 75% of the league. I already explained (if you can read) that a diverse group nearly mirrors the demographics of the US. The UCs schools do not mirror the demographics of the US because with international students (86% of the 12% international population is from either China, South Korea and Japan) over 50% of the school is Asian. No, the NFL is not diverse because nearly 70% of players are black, which is an overwhelming majority (using your rationale) if you can count.
@johnpfc3, well, my view is that proportionality is not the same as diversity. A school that is 40%/30%/20%/10% in race is more diverse than a school that is 70%/15%/10%/5% regardless of what the country’s population breakdown is.
@PurpleTitan so youre saying the NBA and NFL are not diverse then right? since it has 70%+ of one race