Best Ivy for Minorities

<p>To Icebox: Word.</p>

<p>XO was a lot more fun to read when The Fan was on there, although I never really posted. </p>

<p>That being said, this was a classic thread. Both PosterX and Byerly "go off" on their respective schools. All we need to make it a meal would be scottie to post some links.</p>

<p>So Zephyr, I'm not wrong that these two do this frequently?</p>

<p>I'm not sure why the internet inspires them to try and make their schools sound superior to any other since it doesnt matter what anyone else thinks, just what you think about your school. Who the **** am I to have an opinion on Harvard that matters to Byerly or Yale to posterX?</p>

<p>Anyway, we all know (to be viewed in order):
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<p>ask and you shall receive, zephyr.</p>

<p>princeton #3 among elites, and #1 among ivies, for blacks (specifically, for "success in integrating african-americans"):</p>

<p><a href="http://www.jbhe.com/features/36_leading_universities.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.jbhe.com/features/36_leading_universities.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<h1>2 among all universities for latinos:</h1>

<p><a href="http://www.hispaniconline.com/magazine/2006/march/features/colleges.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.hispaniconline.com/magazine/2006/march/features/colleges.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>and of course, #1 among all unis for undergraduate education:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/brief/t1natudoc_brief.php%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/brief/t1natudoc_brief.php&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>note:</p>

<p>"About 37 percent of students who have accepted Princeton's offer of admission this year [2010] are from a minority background, compared with 30 percent last year. The number of African-Americans has not changed, but the numbers of Asian-Americans, Native Americans and Hispanic and Latino students have increased."</p>

<p><a href="http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/archives/2006/05/12/news/15614.shtml%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/archives/2006/05/12/news/15614.shtml&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Almost, but not quite, as diverse as Harvard, which of course is #1 as a destination for latinos, and has the nation's highest yield rate for African Americans. </p>

<p>At 71%, Harvard's African American yield rate is higher than Princeton's overall yield rate - including legacies and the ED applicants who fill half the class at the New Jersey school!!</p>

<p>"Asian-American students will comprise 19.2 percent of the Class of 2010 [at Harvard], compared with 18.5 percent last year. African-American students will comprise 9.3 percent of the class (9.3 percent last year), Latino students 8.8 percent (7.3 percent last year) and Native Americans 1.2 percent (0.9 percent last year).</p>

<p><a href="http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/2006/05.11/01-yield.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/2006/05.11/01-yield.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>And yet Princeton and Harvard have lower rates of Asian-Americans than Stanford! Stanford's 24% is much higher than Harvard's 19%. I'm also guessing it's much lower than 19% at Princeton--maybe 14%?</p>

<p>And Stanford has more Latinos than Harvard and Princeton do. </p>

<p>The Ivy League semi-quota on Asian-Americans is certainly dragging down that "diversity," now isn't it? Neither Princeton nor Harvard is as diverse as Stanford.</p>

<p>Stanford certainly draws more asian and hispanic applicants, reflecting its California setting. It is less geographically diverse, however.</p>

<p>This sort of discussion is disgusting. Why is it okay for colored people to be worried about having too many non-colored people at their school, when the reverse situation is clearly not okay?</p>

<p>And if the question being asked isn't about proportions of races, then somebody please clarify (as I asked before) what "best ivy for minorities?" means.</p>

<p>GHBrown08, FTW.</p>

<p>Do I want to know what FTW means?</p>

<p>Read here about what factors Hispanic Magazine considers important for top Latino students:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.hispaniconline.com/magazine/2006/march/features/colleges.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.hispaniconline.com/magazine/2006/march/features/colleges.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Percentage of hispanic faculty? Fear the white professor, he must be a racist who will discriminate!</p>

<p>I hope some of you will become englightened and start calling this ********. Having a rainbow of skin colors doesn't mean anything; what is truly good is a variety of people with intelligent opinions. Putting a bunch of 'coloreds' together who all think the world discriminates against them doesn't constitute diversity.</p>

<p>“What I’m trying to accomplish is to bring a very diverse perspective from across the nation to Stanford,” Shaw responded. “I’m not interested in receiving more applications. I’m interested in reaching out to kids that really are not on our wavelengths. Quite frankly, the schools we compete with do it ten times as much as we do it. In other words, the representation in their student bodies is much broader and deeper.”</p>

<p>Thats just a bunch of flowery speech; it means nothing.</p>

<p>Students that aren't on Stanford's wavelength would be, for example, somebody who thinks AA is bogus. That is not the sort of student they are trying to attract in "bringing a diverse perspective from across the nation," regardless of what you want to believe.</p>

<p>FTW means "for the win." It means he agrees with you. :)</p>

<p>But Byerly! As someone who's connected to Byerly Hall, you MUST know that Asian-American applicants number far more than 19%!</p>

<p>17.7% of admits, 19.2% of matriculants. Do you have comparable stats for Stanford?</p>

<p>But what percentage of applicants, Byerly? You must have that data, although you won't share it.</p>

<p>You and I both know it's at least in the low 30's. MIT, which shares practically the same science & math applicant cohort with Harvard, is 28% Asian-American.</p>

<p>I don't "know" any such thing, and neither do you.</p>

<p>If you don't, a simple phone call to your eponymous hall would suffice.</p>