Best Ivy for Minorities

<p>Does anyone know which Ivy League is considered the best for minorities? Specifically African Americans…</p>

<p>I believe Columbia has the highest percentage of students of color in the Ivy League.</p>

<p>"students of color" usually counts Asians... having a large number of Asians wouldn't say much about the climate for African Americans.</p>

<p>What is 'best for minorities' supposed to mean anyways?</p>

<p>ILoveBrown, why dont you tell alinicole what Brown is like in terms of race, specifically for Black students, based on observation or personal experience?</p>

<p>Harvard (#7) and Columbia (#10) are the only Ivies listed in the best 25 schools for Hispanics.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.hispaniconline.com/edu&/top25/top-1.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.hispaniconline.com/edu&/top25/top-1.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Once again, Harvard is the leading magnet for top black applicants, enrolling 69.2% of admits for the Class of 2009, a much higher percentage than any other elite.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.jbhe.com/pdf/2005freshmensurvey.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.jbhe.com/pdf/2005freshmensurvey.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Asian-American students will comprise 19.2 percent of the Class of 2010, compared with 18.5 percent last year. African-American students will comprise 9.3 percent of the class (9.3 percent last year), Latino students 8.8 percent (7.3 percent last year) and Native Americans 1.2 percent (0.9 percent last year).</p>

<p><a href="http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/2006/05.11/01-yield.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/2006/05.11/01-yield.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Yale is the only Ivy League School on this list, "Do different types of students (black/white, rich/poor) interact frequently and easily?", which might say something:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.princetonreview.com/college/research/rankings/rankingDetails.asp?CategoryID=2&TopicID=18%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.princetonreview.com/college/research/rankings/rankingDetails.asp?CategoryID=2&TopicID=18&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>From what I've seen, students of different backgrounds at Yale interact with each other much more than minority groups of students at other schools do.</p>

<p>The chief reasons, I think, are:</p>

<p>1) the "residential college" system at Yale, which despite similar names of housing systems at a few peer institutions, is unlike any other residential system in the country in terms of how it integrates students and serves as a real basis of undergraduate social and intellectual life overall, </p>

<p>2) the undergraduate dormitories are in a much more compact area than any other elite school, meaning students run into each other much more frequently than they do anywhere else, and therefore form friendships more easily, </p>

<p>3) generally speaking, extremely well-appointed and well-funded student groups and cultural houses, especially the African American center, and an unlimited number of cultural events, such as the largest Native American "pow wow" east of the Mississippi, and a huge Indian/Pakistani festival (also due to the massive amount of funding Yale lavishes upon its undergraduates, but also in part to the incredibly diverse nature of the graduate student population that, unlike at other Ivies, almost entirely lives in the immediate area around the school); the quality being high enough that students of all backgrounds are attracted to participate,</p>

<p>4) the compact nature of the host college town, which in addition to arguably being the most vibrant among the Ivies, does not require students to travel by miles in a car or by subway to get to the center of the action. Literally hundreds upon hundreds of stores, bars, clubs and restaurants representing pretty much every cuisine in the world wrap around the Yale campus; the area has recently become the top destination for pretty much everyone in the entire State.</p>

<p>Visit each school you're considering, preferably for a class day as well as a weekend day or two, if you want to get a real sense on this. Nothing you read will tell you how it really works, and, as a member of a minority group myself, trust me, there are big differences in how people on a campus interact.</p>

<p>I would say that the runner up in this category, if there is one, is Brown. Harvard is also pretty good at this. But looking outside the Ivies (and at a school that is just as good if not better than most Ivies at the undergraduate level), take a gander at Wesleyan.</p>

<p>As a would-be member of the Class of 2012 at Yale, how do you hold yourself out as an expert in these matters?</p>

<p>See: <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/crep/www/report_view.html?college_id=473&sort_by=date&search_start=3&is_enabled=1&&report_id=96ef7556dc5aa3baea18041bab453563%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/crep/www/report_view.html?college_id=473&sort_by=date&search_start=3&is_enabled=1&&report_id=96ef7556dc5aa3baea18041bab453563&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>New Haven a "college town"? "Easily the most vibrant among the Ivies"? </p>

<p>What????????????????????????????</p>

<p>Editing posts like that, posterX.... Tsk, tsk. If you're going to make a ridiculous statement, at least stand by it.</p>

<p>I would stand by the statement in either formulation, ivyleaf.</p>

<p>Also, I am not a would-be member of the class of 2012. The options for posting a review are student or other. By choosing "other" and "2012", I am stating that I am looking for someone potentially in the class of 2012 but the relationship I have to that person is "other" (e.g., a friend).</p>

<p>It's also important to remember that Byerly comes in here all the time to profess the greatness of Harvard to Brown students and posterX does the same with Yale.</p>

<p>Honestly, I think it's a dumb question, but I'll say we do have a program specifically for minority students for orientation and have Minority Peer Counselors for freshman units whom are supposed to help deal with any adjustment issues related to race or class or other that come up.</p>

<p>This is an open forum, not just for Brown students.</p>

<p>"Does anyone know which Ivy League is considered the best for minorities?"</p>

<p>This is not the first and the last time you two will be going across forums to convince everyone your school is great. To the OP, they should have asked about the atmosphere at Brown specificaly since this is the Brown forum, I know that you're sharing from your own schools, but these are not the only threads you choose to trounce on in here.</p>

<p>Do I come over to the Harvard forum and say you're a bunch of cork-sniffing self-congratulatory asses? Nope, I don't think that's true. Do I come to point out why statiscally Brown wins in this category and that category? Nope I dont, and beleive me, there are even some stats (you lovely reductionists you) that Brown does topple other schools with. I'm sick of opening every thread and hearing someone whining about their chances or watch the two of you proselytize like you're opinion over here is God as are your schools. Brown is not the right place for a lot of people, neither is Harvard or Yale and when someone out there realizes that they'll be better for it.</p>

<p>Don't hate because you feel the need to prove why this stat is right, and that stat is right, and this thing is most important etc.</p>

<p>This post is inappropriately placed in this forum (at least hte way it's worded) and therefore warrants the response, but I feel it's necessary topoint out biases BOTH of you have exhibited in other threads that had NOTHING to do with your schools,i.e., the Princeton Review thread about Happiest Students, threads where we discuss the merits of Providence (or lack their of) etc.</p>

<p>Enough already.</p>

<p>This thread is excusable, I just chose this one to call you both out.</p>

<p>I have said not a single negative word about Brown here have I? Did I miss something? "Cork-sniffing"?</p>

<p>I am a great admirer of Brown, with several family members as proud alumni, and have never <em>ever</em> urged anyone not to apply there. Indeed, I have never <em>ever</em> urged anyone to apply - or not to apply - to any particular college.</p>

<p>So get your knickers out of the twist, "modestmelody". </p>

<p>Sounds like YOU are the "hater"!</p>

<p>Byerly, Pinderhughes here. Are you the famous NYCFan? Sure sounds like it. The tip-off was your saying you have family members who have attended Brown. I know that to be true of The Fanster. Just want to entreaty you to come back over to xoxo. You're missed. A lot of inarticulate nonsense passing for knowledge over there without you.</p>

<p>I have simply despaired of "management's" willingness to make necessary changes at "the other place."</p>

<p>Yeah. It's pretty lonely over there without you, Fan.</p>