<p>Hey, Im posting this for a friend who doesnt have an account, but which Ivy is the best for Pre-law and business?</p>
<p>Im leaning towards Yale, since they have one of the most prestigious and well known law departments in the world, but Im really not sure and Im open to suggestions? Try and give as much explanation as possible! Thanks!</p>
<p>Your friend’s perspective on Law School and Grad bus school is pretty shallow if it only centers on which Ivy is the best vehicle to propel him/her forward. Any of the Ivies and their peer institutions are world class and it’d be rather naive to think that a Law school would look poorly on a Dartmouth grad over a Columbia grad. the excellence of these schools has only thin shades of difference. the fact that your friend even asks the question shows he/she doesn’t know how college “names” are really viewed upon in the real world.</p>
<p>Tell her/him to focus on getting into any great college first. To cherry pick which Ivy is rather premature.</p>
<p>Hey T2… The thread is asking about the Ivies specifically cause this is the Yale board… </p>
<p>Obviously every good school is being considered (both Canadian and American), but is it not redundant to ask about NYU or U of T on an Ivy league board? I do appreciate you trying to make my friend more “worldly” cause you apparently think he is shallow, but I was asking about the Ivies because he wants to know about the Ivies</p>
<p>yeah! I was wondering this too, well more for what to major at Yale for boith of these,
anyway, the list you got, correct me if I’m wrong, is more of a grad school list b/c most ivies don’t have under law or business. So this is what I know for undergrad:</p>
<p>Law I’d go with Yale, Yale Law school=phenomenal(famous alumni too:) and you can finangle your way into the classes if you really try, Yale is more focused on undergrad overall, so that helps too.</p>
<p>Business is Penn, pretty definitely. Wharton consistently ranks #1 for undergrad business.barring that, since the others don’t have undergrad degress you might want to consider Columbia just b/c it is in NYC and close to Wall Street…</p>
<p>after that…I don’t actually know that much about Cornell, Dartmouth, or Brown, but they’re kinda considered slightly lesser Ivies, I dunno, Cornell has great engineering and Brown is lib arts…</p>
<p>Be careful about that finagling. I nearly took a course on Property at the Law School but my thesis advisor took me aside and said “how much extra time do you have? It is Yale Law School we’re talking about” </p>
<p>Even the undergraduate courses I took (and a couple I audited) in Yale College generally stunned me with the amount of reading assigned. I was glad to be a grad student.</p>
<p>ECandb8r- I think your comments show the misconceptions out there. Dartmouth for example is up there with Princeton and Wharton at business placement, arguably above Columbia. For law they are pretty much all the same, its all about GPA and LSAT.</p>
<p>I did say I didn’t know much about Dartmouth and obviously any Ivy degree has cachet whatever you choose to do with it, and yes grad school does look at test scores and GPA more than just about anything else. </p>
<p>That said though, I stand by my original statement, you can’t top Wharton for Undergrad business (their grad school is supposed to be worse but I’m not familiar with it) Columbia I threw in just for location and to broaden the discussion the fact that it’s in NYC is not the sole reason to go but it could be a variable…</p>
<p>Law, again, I know Yale law is either number one or two, and going undergrad at Yale might help for Law school admissions…</p>
<p>so that being said, obviously look at other Ivies, and as OP stated already, other non Ivy Schools. Feel free to disregard any of my comments that you disagree with if necessary.</p>
<p>This is somewhat off-topic, but what on earth is a ‘business’ major? I have a feeling that the OP’s friend would encounter something he didn’t sign up for in the Wharton pre-finance environment, but I’m not sure that there are another ‘business’ degrees available at any of the Ivy Leagues.</p>
<p>Well, Cornell has business majors as part of its Ag School (which also houses biology), as well as lots of business-related stuff in its Schools of Industrial Labor Relations and Hotel Management. And Princeton has an Operations Research major which synchs up nicely with lots of business consulting.</p>
<p>There is no business major at most Ivies, but they dominate in terms of corporate recruiting at top finance and consulting firms so an Ivy is one of the best places to go for someone looking to enter these areas of business. Majoring something and getting a job in that area are not correlated. There similarly is no pre-law major at Ivies yet Ivy alums hold a majority of spots at the top law schools.</p>
<p>@vaeliant… I honestly have been asking myself the same question, a “business” major is something that is an odd subject to really narrow down (Im an econ/math major at Yale and I dont even know). Basically, my friend is looking for an undergrad degree that would help him understand the ins and outs of finance and business in todays market (which obviously involves quite a bit of looking through course catalogs, cause even a real “business” undergrad has tons of options) that he could then take and pursue a law degree and career. And like @slipper1234 said, he is looking to the Ivies specifically because of the amazing recruitment opportunities (although, its clear that being recruited out of a top non-ivy school is usually just as good)</p>
<p>haha, thatguy, don’t get set on a major before you even get to campus! (I know this is totally irrelevant to the thread… just a piece of advice from a rising senior who’s been there).</p>