<p>^ True. Many, many attorneys--and students at top law schools--have business undergrad backgrounds (including me). It's no less useful--and in many cases is MORE useful--than a traditional liberal arts (poly sci, history, sociology, English, etc. major) background. Of course, strong writing skills are a big help, but those can be developed in an undergrad business program, too, especially if you also take some liberal arts courses that require a lot of expository writing. The bottom line is that individual liberal arts course schedules can vary widely from student to student, as can individual business course schedules, and sweeping generalizations about liberal arts versus business programs are not very helpful.</p>
<p>This may be a tangent here but I always wanted to get into entertainment business and maybe producing (childhood dream) after my undergrad and before going for a JDMBA. Are there any recommended minors or strands of classes? Is the choice still equal between Berk. and Columbia with that in mind?</p>
<p>Do you just want a JD-MBA because Ari Gold has one? Be honest.</p>
<p>Columbia, Wharton, Cornell</p>
<p>Do you just want a JD-MBA because Ari Gold has one? Be honest.</p>
<p>Hahahaha, that made me laugh. I love the show but never knew what type of degree he had until I googled your post. To answer your question, no. It's because of a newsweek article I read a year or so ago which profiled the program and the work opportunities that it offered. I thought it was very impressing stuff. Now that I know AG has one though... :D</p>
<p>Really, since you're an international, admission to these colleges is going to be very difficult. And you're going to be transferring, which is going to be even more difficult. And you'll be trying to get into some of the best business programs, so even more difficult. Berkeley's acceptance rate for internationals is around 10%. I surmise Columbia's and Penn's are similar, if not lower. And for business? Try to look into more realistic options.</p>
<p>Thats why I cut Wharton off my list. (well that and lack of interest in the general curriculum, state and school).</p>
<p>But I think I have a chance at Berkeley. I don't know about Columbia. I have the business profile in terms of activities, internships, competitions, my gpa is not the best but not the worst, i have great sats, and write a pretty good essay if I can be so bold.</p>
<p>I don't know-- I don't see my case as being hopeless for Berkeley. I called the admissions department and the person I got agreed. Theres no harm in applying. And as for the very low acceptance rate into Haas, a lot of it has to do with people not preparing correctly and doing the right prerequisites (in language and such). The woman who was an admissions officer before told me that they ended up discarding over 50% of the 900 or so applications because of that.</p>
<p>undisclosed, i want to go into entertainment business/law also and lol it kinda has been my childhood dream to produce movies as well. i'm ALSO planning on doing undergrad business with a double major in something more liberal artsy because i was a little scared that law schools may look down at the ug biz, but i really do not think that is the case anymore. by the way, i have read about the jd/mba (after finding out that ari gold had one lol) and they really don't matter unless you get one from a top top school and in order to do that your going to have to probably take a couple or three years off to have biz experience before being able to get into a top business school. if that is what oyu want to do then go ahead and try to get your jd/mba it could help in e biz, but what occurred to me is that if you just get your jd you can still get into the agenting business and entertainment law (learn the business on the job) and then become a producer or not. ALSO, very important i think, is the fact that just incase you can't get your mba you still will have an amazing business degree if you do it at one of the top ranked programs which will give you your biz background right there. on the other hand, you may want to make sure you can get into a top mba school in the future if you want the jd/mba if you can get jobs that will also make you contacts because you don't want to waste too much time without those especially in entertainment.</p>
<p>i say emory because its ranked #4 by businessweek and i think #9 by usnews (i hate usnews) and its a 2 year program that is not as business intensive as a 4 year program but you still get the biz education with a strong liberal arts background and the opportunity to double major like i mentioned earlier if you want.</p>
<p>private message me to talk since we have the same goals pretty much</p>
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<p>Ha ha ha. But Haas is not a hippy business school. Actually, the school is located to arguably the most beautiful edge of campus (in that there is a view of the Bay), and the so-called hippy nature of the rest of Berkeley can be easily ignored if you want to do so.</p>
<p>The Top 4 or 5 undergrad b-schools could include:</p>
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and in no particular order:
MIT
Haas/Berkeley
(Columbia: I wasn't aware it has an undergrad b-school)
Virginia
Ross/Michigan
Probably a few others
Apparently Northwestern has increased its undergrad offerings</p>
<p>About Haas, Ross, and Virginia, just make sure you can gain admission as a junior transfer. And if you want to go into technology, go to Haas -- or MIT.</p>
<p>before continuing any further, we need to know the op's stats. Seriously, especially considering the schools he/she wishes to apply to</p>
<p>emory is a top undergrad business program its ranked 4 by businessweek</p>
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Ha ha ha. But Haas is not a hippy business school. Actually, the school is located to arguably the most beautiful edge of campus (in that there is a view of the Bay), and the so-called hippy nature of the rest of Berkeley can be easily ignored if you want to do so.
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<p>I fully agree that Haas is the most beautiful part of campus. But if you expect to be able to ignore the rest of the school and the surrounding area - umm, I REALLY REALLY doubt that. Is every class, residence, and so on right in Haas - no.</p>
<p>*as a wanna be biz kid who visited Berkeley, LOVED Haas, but could not stand the rest and as such couldn't imagine ever going there, especially with SOOO many great schools out there.</p>
<p>say someone isn't looking for law or medical school...</p>
<p>would undergrad at wharton be the best option</p>
<p>If you knew that you wanted to go into Finance, Harvard, Princeton & Wharton are your best shots. All three of these are viewed as completely, 100% equal on Wall-Street. However, with that said, Harvard & Princeton will give you more flexibility outside of Wall-Street.</p>
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Thats why I cut Wharton off my list. (well that and lack of interest in the general curriculum, state and school).</p>
<p>But I think I have a chance at Berkeley. I don't know about Columbia.
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<p>You have as much a chance at Berkeley Haas as you do at Penn Wharton. Believe me.</p>
<p>Berkeley students have trouble transferring to Haas, much less people from other schools.</p>
<p>I'm piggybacking and want to echo the double major and Berkeley questions. If I want to go into marketing and not go to law school (or maybe even not go on to get an MBA), would Haas be a good choice? What about double majoring?</p>
<p>the best is wharton.
Some of the other best are MIT sloan, NYU stern, Berkeley Haas, and UMICH ross</p>
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You mean generally in business? I don't believe this is true, unless you have some hard facts or statistics that prove otherwise. For example, Wharton is also top-ranked in marketing, accounting, real estate, and international business, among other things.</p>
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But if you expect to be able to ignore the rest of the school and the surrounding area - umm, I REALLY REALLY doubt that. Is every class, residence, and so on right in Haas - no.
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<p>The parts of Berkeley that are annoying in this way are largely on southside and into Sproul Plaza. And yeah, you can completely avoid those portions if you want for housing, classes, walking around. I didn't mean to suggest you could live hermetically sealed at the Haas School itself. And IMO, some of that element makes Berkeley more entertaining on some level, if only for people watching. </p>
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<p>Sounds like you made the right choice for you. But since Haas is one of the best, I assume you are either looking at a broader quality range of schools or are not just looking at undergrad b-schools. 'Cause among u. b-schools, there aren't as many great schools out there.</p>
<p>In terms of finding Berkeley too hippie, you probably also found it too urban therefore. I would suggest you avoid urban schools and stick with the suburban ones. Virginia sounds like it would be a better fit for you, maybe Emory among top b-schools (?). 'Cause the other ones have a ragged feel too around the edges in terms of being in an urban environment, and you won't be able to completely avoid the "riff-raff" ...</p>