<p>nocousin-
I agree with you completely about the idea that everyone should strive to live up to their potential, and I mean everyone, not just the 1400+ SAT kids. </p>
<p>That's why I'd like every student to go to the best college they can get into.</p>
<p>"Is this true? I've never seen any discussion of it before. Is the average SAT for a chemistry or physics major really consistently higher than the average SAT for a history or religion major at a given school or across schools? That would be interesting to see. I'm sure some econ prof in the name of research (even though it doesn't have much to do with economics to me) has done this type of study if the data is available."</p>
<p>GRE scores by major. The GRE and the pre 1995 SAT are for all intents and purposes, the same test. They are both IQ tests. To deny this is to put political correctness before fact. Add ~100 points to the overall score to convert the GRE score to a current SAT score. Notice social workers and education workers are at the bottom.</p>
<p>Here are the GMAT scores (yet another IQ test) sorted by undergraduate major
:
Journey</a> to my MBA: GMAT by Major - Part 5 of 6</p>
<p>tomslawsky-
I would think the verbal rankings by major would be different if you excluded international students.</p>
<p>^^^ I don't deny that the SAT is an IQ test. I just dispute that it's an accurate, reliable, culturally neutral indicator of human intelligence. Those are two very different things. What it tries to measure and what it actually measures may diverge.</p>
<p>FWIW, the way I read these tables, philosophy majors are right up there with physicists at the top of the SAT and SAT look-alike charts.</p>
<p>^^^
Yes, Philosophy majors tend to have a higher IQ than most majors. Also, I agree that IQ tests aren't the panacea of intelligence measurement, but I fail to see how they are culturally bias.</p>
<p>I will be visiting Ithaca with my son soon. He is a B+ student who does not test that well and will probably have standardized test scores that are lower than you would expect for a B+ kid, but we'll see. I do not currently have scores. He has some interesting ECs and his transcript is fine (B+ average and took challenging classes). Anyway, I would like to visit one Suny within 2 hours of Ithaca, and perhaps 3 private schools. He is not interested in schools with strong religious affililiatons. He is interested in majoring in English or history for the moment. Cost will be an important factor. </p>
<p>Questions: Can anyone tell me about Elmira beyond their school colors and how everything on campus is purple, LOL? Why do 25% leave after freshman year?</p>
<p>Would visiting Ithaca, Hobart, and Elmira be some schools to visit, and any other private school suggestions for us?</p>
<p>Which one Suny within 2 hours of Ithaca would be worthwhile visiting with him?</p>
<p>SUNY Binghamton. Considered the most selective and prestigious of the SUNY's. Albany and Binghamton are the most popular. I believe it is about 1 hr away.</p>
<p>milkandsugar thanks, but I think that Bing might be a reach. Also, my son was looking at smaller SUNY schools. Frankly, when I look on college opinion websites, students are full of complaints about their Suny schools (read about the smaller ones that nearby). It is kind of frustrating and makes them all sound like places you would not want to attend....sigh</p>
<p>D was accepted to Binghamton but did not go. Her best friend goes to SUNY Purchase, but she hates it there. She is a freshman and already planning for a transfer. Friend's son goes to SUNY stonybrook and loves it. D other good friend is a freshman at SUNY Cortlandt and he is also thinking of transferring out as well. I don't know what it is. Colleagues' son goes to Binghamton and loves it.</p>
<p>Of the SUNY schools:</p>
<ol>
<li>Binghamton</li>
<li>Geneseo</li>
<li>Stony Brook</li>
<li>Buffalo</li>
<li>New Paltz</li>
</ol>
<p>Of schools outside of SUNY:</p>
<ol>
<li>Columbia</li>
<li>NYU/Vassar</li>
<li>Syracuse</li>
<li>Fordham</li>
<li>Pace</li>
</ol>
<p>milkandsugar, I don't know either. I am trying to find something affordable in case the privates aren't going to work out financially. We are OOS for Sunys, but our instate schools in NJ also have some negatives.</p>
<p>look at Syracuse
SUNY Oswego
Hartwick</p>
<p>collegehelp, we did look at Hartwick a year ago when we were in the area. Syracuse is a bit too big. Oswego is a possibility. </p>
<p>Does anyone know if students are generally happier at Cortland, Oswego, or Oneonta?</p>