<p>Here is a ranking by SAT scores.
I'll post other rankings of SUNY/CUNY by size, ethnic make-up later.</p>
<p>school, SAT 25th percentile, SAT 75th percentile, SAT midpoint</p>
<p>SUNY at Geneseo 1250 1390 1320
SUNY at Binghamton 1180 1340 1260
SUNY at Buffalo 1040 1260 1150
SUNY College of Environmental Science and Forestry 1050 1230 1140
SUNY College at New Paltz 1040 1210 1125
CUNY Bernard M Baruch College 1060 1170 1115
SUNY Maritime College 950 1260 1105
SUNY at Fredonia 1010 1190 1100
SUNY College at Oswego 1030 1170 1100
SUNY at Albany 1000 1190 1095
SUNY College at Purchase 980 1200 1090
CUNY Hunter College 980 1180 1080
SUNY College at Brockport 980 1180 1080
SUNY College at Oneonta 1000 1160 1080
SUNY Institute of Technology at Utica-Rome 980 1170 1075
SUNY College at Cortland 980 1130 1055
SUNY-Potsdam 950 1160 1055
SUNY College at Plattsburgh 950 1150 1050
CUNY Brooklyn College 940 1140 1040
SUNY College of Agriculture and Technology at Cobleskill 940 1140 1040
CUNY Queens College 920 1130 1025
CUNY City College 850 1140 995
SUNY College at Buffalo 890 1070 980
CUNY College of Staten Island 870 1070 970
SUNY College at Old Westbury 890 1040 965
SUNY College of Technology at Alfred 840 1070 955
CUNY John Jay College Criminal Justice 850 1030 940
SUNY College of Technology at Delhi 700 1115 907.5
CUNY Lehman College 810 1000 905
CUNY York College 760 940 850</p>
<p>I should mentioned that Cornell has several colleges that are affiliated with SUNY and which are the most selective of the public or public-supported units in New York:
Agriculture
Human Ecology
Industrial and Labor Relations
Veterinary Medicine (post baccalaureate)</p>
<p>admissions rate: number admitted divided by number of applications</p>
<p>lower admit rate means more selective</p>
<p>What's the deal with Purchase? Is that artsy?</p>
<p>SUNY College at Purchase 29.3%
CUNY Bernard M Baruch College 31.4%
CUNY Hunter College 33.7%
CUNY Lehman College 35.1%
SUNY College at New Paltz 36.1%
SUNY at Geneseo 37.0%
SUNY Institute of Technology at Utica-Rome 38.8%
SUNY College at Brockport 41.9%
CUNY Queens College 42.6%
SUNY College at Oneonta 42.9%
SUNY at Binghamton 43.1%
Stony Brook University 43.2%
CUNY York College 43.9%
SUNY College at Cortland 44.0%
CUNY Brooklyn College 44.6%
SUNY College at Plattsburgh 46.5%
CUNY City College 46.5%
SUNY College at Buffalo 47.1%
SUNY College at Oswego 50.0%
SUNY College of Environmental Science and Forestry 50.8%
SUNY at Buffalo 51.7%
SUNY College at Old Westbury 54.9%
SUNY at Albany 55.8%
SUNY at Fredonia 56.4%
SUNY College of Technology at Alfred 62.0%
SUNY-Potsdam 66.5%
SUNY College of Technology at Delhi 70.7%
SUNY Empire State College 71.7%
SUNY Maritime College 72.3%
SUNY College of Agriculture and Technology at Cobleskill 81.4%
CUNY John Jay College Criminal Justice 81.6%
SUNY College of Technology at Canton 83.8%
CUNY College of Staten Island 98.9%</p>
<p>SUNY at Geneseo 79
SUNY at Binghamton 77
SUNY College of Environmental Science and Forestry 66
SUNY College at New Paltz 65
SUNY at Albany 64
SUNY at Fredonia 62
SUNY at Buffalo 61
CUNY Bernard M Baruch College 60
SUNY College at Oneonta 59
Stony Brook University 59
SUNY College at Brockport 58
SUNY College at Cortland 57
SUNY College at Plattsburgh 55
SUNY College at Oswego 54
CUNY Queens College 53
SUNY College at Purchase 51
SUNY-Potsdam 50
SUNY Maritime College 48
SUNY College of Agriculture and Technology at Cobleskill 48
CUNY Brooklyn College 47
CUNY College of Staten Island 44
SUNY College at Buffalo 43
SUNY College of Technology at Alfred 42
CUNY John Jay College Criminal Justice 42
SUNY College of Technology at Canton 38
CUNY Hunter College 36
CUNY City College 36
SUNY College at Old Westbury 36
SUNY College of Technology at Delhi 36
CUNY Lehman College 34
CUNY York College 28
CUNY New York City College of Technology 13
CUNY Medgar Evers College 10
SUNY Empire State College 8</p>
<p>Cornell has NY state contract colleges. They are NOT SUNY. I know because--</p>
<p>-I am a SUNY professor and my union offers a scholarship for children attending a SUNY school. It does not pay for Cornell.
-We have three kids in college. The tuition at Cornell (with a daughter at ILR) is almost the same as the other "elite" private school colleges my other children attend.. Cornell's is about $10,000 less, but they offered less financial aid, i.e. a wash.
-Cornell is an ivy league school. It is very hard to gain admittance.</p>
<p>Comparing grad rates and retention rates, 30% of freshman at Stony Brook drop out after the first year. That's a lot.</p>
<p>SUNY at Binghamton 90
SUNY at Geneseo 89
Stony Brook University 89
CUNY Bernard M Baruch College 88
SUNY at Buffalo 87
SUNY College at New Paltz 86
SUNY at Fredonia 85
SUNY College at Brockport 84
CUNY Queens College 84
SUNY at Albany 83
SUNY College at Purchase 82
CUNY College of Staten Island 82
CUNY Hunter College 82
SUNY College at Oneonta 81
SUNY College at Cortland 81
SUNY College at Plattsburgh 81
CUNY Brooklyn College 80
SUNY College of Technology at Delhi 80
SUNY College of Technology at Alfred 79
CUNY City College 79
SUNY College at Oswego 77
SUNY College at Buffalo 76
SUNY College of Technology at Canton 75
CUNY New York City College of Technology 75
SUNY College of Agriculture and Technology at Cobleskill 74
CUNY John Jay College Criminal Justice 74
SUNY College at Old Westbury 73
CUNY Lehman College 73
SUNY-Potsdam 72
CUNY York College 71
SUNY Maritime College 70
SUNY Institute of Technology at Utica-Rome 66
CUNY Medgar Evers College 61
SUNY Empire State College 40</p>
<p>This is a very sweeping generatlization. If does not mean that 30% students necessarily drop out after freshman year. It simply means that 30% of the students do not graduate **from Stony Brook <a href="they%20could%20very%20well%20graduate%20from%20other%20places">/b</a>.</p>
<p>If a student does not finish within 6 years and they are no longer counted in Stony Brook's 6 year co-hort rate. It is not unusual for students to change from full time to part time status and graduate after 6 years and it does not count students who transfer to other schools after freshman year.</p>
<p>sybbie-
Eleven percent drop out after freshman year at Stony Brook. An ADDITIONAL 30% drop from sophomore year on. That 30% is much larger than other schools. Total drop-out rate is 41%.</p>
<p>Whether a student leaves because they flunk out or because they transfer elsewhere doesn't matter. If you leave, you leave. It doesn't reflect well on Stony Brook.</p>
<p>Where are your numbers coming from? The data sheet from the SUNY website for incoming 2007 freshmen shows SAT ranges which are a little higher. Yours might be USNWR which shows 2006 freshmen?</p>
<p>Muffy-
My data comes from the IPEDS website (US Dept of Educ) as reported by the colleges. It might be from 2006, can't recall. Shouldn't be much different from one year to the next.</p>
<p>SUNY College of Optometry 77
CUNY Medgar Evers College 75
CUNY Lehman College 72
CUNY Hunter College 70
SUNY College at New Paltz 67
CUNY York College 67
CUNY School of Law at Queens College 65
SUNY Health Science Center at Brooklyn 65
CUNY Queens College 63
CUNY Brooklyn College 63
SUNY Health Science Center at Syracuse 62
CUNY College of Staten Island 61
SUNY College at Buffalo 61
SUNY College at Old Westbury 61
CUNY John Jay College Criminal Justice 60
SUNY Empire State College 60
SUNY at Geneseo 59
SUNY-Potsdam 59
CUNY Graduate School and University Center 59
SUNY College at Brockport 58
SUNY College at Oneonta 58
SUNY College at Cortland 58
SUNY College at Plattsburgh 58
SUNY at Fredonia 57
SUNY College at Oswego 56
SUNY College at Purchase 55
Stony Brook University 53
SUNY at Albany 53
CUNY Bernard M Baruch College 52
CUNY City College 52
SUNY College of Technology at Canton 52
CUNY New York City College of Technology 49
SUNY Institute of Technology at Utica-Rome 49
SUNY at Binghamton 48
SUNY at Buffalo 48
SUNY College of Agriculture and Technology at Cobleskill 48
SUNY College of Technology at Delhi 46
SUNY College of Environmental Science and Forestry 43
SUNY College of Technology at Alfred 36
SUNY Maritime College 11</p>