<p>Maybe, but I don't see how anyone can leave UT off of their list? They might be the most dominant across the board in sports compared to anyone, Especially in the big three. </p>
<p>And they're always an annual resident in the top 50 rankings -- something no one will ever say about Arizona State...</p>
<p>USC among privates and Cal or UT among publics.</p>
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The University of Michigan has sports team? I thought they at least got rid of football after the App State game.
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Haha! Maybe you recall this result, jec, AFTER the App State disaster...
Sept. 22, 2007: UMich vs. #10 PSU, 14-9...;)</p>
<p>If you include UT-Austin, then you need to include most of the Big Ten publics...</p>
<p>*The NACDA Directors' Cup is an award given annually by the National Association of Collegiate Directors of Athletics to the colleges and universities with the most success in collegiate athletics. Points for the NACDA Director's Cup are based on order of finish in various NCAA sponsored championships or in the case of Division I Football media base polls. The award originated in 1993, and was presented to NCAA Division I schools only. In 1995, it was extended to Division II, Division III, and NAIA schools as well, each division receiving its own award.</p>
<p>Stanford University has won the award for the best Division I collegiate athletics program for 13 straight years, winning 13 out of the 14 years it has been offered. Williams College has similarly dominated Division III, having won the award 11 times.*</p>
<p>NACDA</a> Director's Cup - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia</p>
<p>Schools</a> with the Most NCAA Championships</p>
<p>Total NCAA championships (all sports)</p>
<p>UCLA: 100
Stanford: 94
Southern California: 84
Oklahoma State: 48
Arkansas: 41
LSU: 40
Texas: 39
Michigan: 32
North Carolina: 32
Penn State: 32</p>
<p>^ Except UCLA's academics are pretty weak...;)</p>
<p>Didn't fUCLA win a championship in women's water polo this year?</p>
<p>"Wake is to golf what Notre Dame is to football."</p>
<p>You say that like it's a good thing.</p>
<p>Ouch! You're right.</p>
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Cal or UT among publics.
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<p>No way you can put Cal above schools like UCLA, Michigan, and Florida/Wisco if you consider them high on academics. Cal, home of Americas most overrated football team, year in and year out.</p>
<p>I'd say</p>
<p>UT
UCLA
Michigan
Florida
Stanford
Wisco
UNC</p>
<p>^ Show some respect for your big brother...at least Cal will have a tested QB come fall...;)</p>
<p>"^ Show some respect for your big brother..."</p>
<p>That's what we always tell the Sparties of East Lansing. Somehow, they never take it well! hehe!!!</p>
<p>I'm trying to weight academics and athletics about equally with the following:</p>
<p>TOP ACADEMICS/ATHLETIC LIFE TIER I (Privates): Stanford, Duke, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Notre Dame, USC, Wake Forest</p>
<p>TOP ACADEMICS/ATHLETIC LIFE TIER I (Publics): UC Berkeley, U Virginia, UCLA, U Michigan, U North Carolina</p>
<p>TOP ACADEMICS/ATHLETIC LIFE TIER II (Privates): Rice, Georgetown, Boston College, Syracuse, Tulane</p>
<p>TOP ACADEMICS/ATHLETIC LIFE TIER II (Publics): Georgia Tech, U Wisconsin, U Illinois, U Washington, U Texas, Penn State, U Florida</p>
<p>TOP ACADEMICS/ATHLETIC LIFE TIER III: Davidson, Colgate, US Naval Academy, US Military Academy, W&M, Cornell, Princeton, Harvard, Princeton </p>
<p>TOP ACADEMICS/ATHLETIC LIFE TIER IV: Williams, Johns Hopkins, Emory, Columbia, Yale, Brown, Dartmouth, MIT, Tufts, Lehigh, UCSD (Public)</p>
<p>TOP ACADEMICS/ATHLETIC LIFE TIER V: U Chicago, Wash U, Carnegie Mellon, Brandeis, U Rochester, Caltech, NYU, all other LACs</p>
<p>Stanford and Duke hands down.</p>
<p>The Rice athletic scene is horrible. Most of baseball happens after school is out, and the games aren't that well attended anyway. The other sports are pretty weak. D is looking forward to graduate school at Vanderbilt where she can see some REAL sports!</p>
<p>I have a feeling there are places with a much better mix of academics and athletics than places like UChicago and Caltech. For example, Ohio State reasonably comparable in athletics to Chicago/Caltech in academics, but Ohio State isn't nearly as far down in academics and those two are in athletics.</p>
<p>Also, I don't think Princeton is quite good enough to merit being listed twice =P.</p>
<p>MOWC,
You're killing me on Rice. :) Come on, they draw pretty well at Reckling (particularly when you consider a student body size of only 3000) and the games can be a lot of fun. And the Rice Owls are now # 5 in the country and will soon be appearing on ESPN winning another national championship in Omaha! :) I know, it's not like an SEC or ACC football or basketball game, but it's pretty good and baseball is the third most popular men's college sport.</p>
<p>dilksey,
You're right on OSU. I just went to # 50 on the USNWR rankings. Probably there are several others that also belong, eg, U Miami, GW, U Maryland, Rutgers, U Pittsburgh, Texas A&M, U Georgia, U Conn, etc.</p>
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Show some respect for your big brother...at least Cal will have a tested QB come fall...
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<p>Oh and don't think we all wont hear about it. Or how Cal will challenge USC for the pac10 title and "this is the year" that they charge past the Trojans into a BCS bowl. They'll probably win their first few games and everybody will be saying "look, look!" as Cal climbs into the top 15. Then, as they always do, they will lose a game they shouldn't. After that things will come undone and Cal will finish around 500 and remind America why Les is right when he talks about how weak pac10 football is.</p>
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Stanford and Duke hands down.
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<p>Stanford yes, but Duke? I mean maybe 5 years ago when their basketball team wasn't getting bounced in the early rounds on a regular basis. Even then, basketball aint gonna cut it. </p>
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You're killing me on Rice.
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<p>One sport doesn't make you a good athletic school. </p>
<p>I'd say:</p>
<p>Top 3 privates: USC, Boston College, Stanford</p>
<p>Top 3 publics: UT, UCLA, Michigan</p>
<p>Laxattack,
I think the idea was that this was to be a blend of academics and athletics. Duke definitely belongs on both counts. We all know it’s a great school, but it was also 11th in last year’s Directors Cup final standings (USC was 5th and Boston College was 58th). </p>
<p>And for publics, U North Carolina was 3rd overall (# 2 public after UCLA) while U Texas was 8th (unless you meant U Tennessee which was 7th).</p>
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Oh and don't think we all wont hear about it. Or how Cal will challenge USC for the pac10 title and "this is the year" that they charge past the Trojans into a BCS bowl. They'll probably win their first few games and everybody will be saying "look, look!" as Cal climbs into the top 15. Then, as they always do, they will lose a game they shouldn't. After that things will come undone and Cal will finish around 500 and remind America why Les is right when he talks about how weak pac10 football is.
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Haha...dude, we've only been good for the past 5 years... a "Rose Bowl before I die" is what I'd like to see... at least we show up and win our bowl games... a lot more than UCLA has done over the past 5 years...</p>