<p>can anybody list some undergraduate schools that offer good pre-med program?</p>
<p>perhaps 10 private schools and 10 public schools?</p>
<p>Thanks in advance//</p>
<p>oooooo....</p>
<p>CCer's have given you the cold shoulder.</p>
<p>Let me break this to you easily, good pre-med is so general, because there are hundreds of school that will do a great job preparing you for med school, and the range so much that listing them would be pointless...</p>
<p>The range is as big as:
[ul]
[<em>]Xavier University (a historically black college in New Orleans w/ the country's highest med school placement out of percentage of class)
[</em>]Wellesley College (Excellent pre-med at the finest all-girls school in the country)
[<em>]Johns Hopkins (Pre-med machine of the universe)
[</em>]So many publics from UC-Berkeley to William & Mary, all the way to UMASS Amherst [/ul]</p>
<p>I could be sending you a 90% black school in the South, and all girl school in high class Wellesley hills, one of the biggest party schools in the country, or one of the most intense public institutions in the country. </p>
<p>All ofthem have great pre-med, and your categories are still general, options are still night and day.</p>
<p>umm... yea- i guess it was tooo general..;
well... im looking for some schools that have good reputation over science(bio, chem, etc)
you know..... like.... business---UPenn, Berkeley, UIUC, or something like this...</p>
<p>especially, im considering public school...</p>
<p>what about these colleges??:
UMichigan?
UIUC?
PennState?
UCLA?</p>
<p>Why all these massive public institutions on each side of the country?
Still to general...</p>
<p>Gives us full preferences:</p>
<p>What kind of place would you like to spend your next four years...
[ul][<em>]Size
[</em>]Setting
[<em>]Location
[</em>]Atmosphere & Mood
[<em>]Rigor of School
[</em>]Competitiveness
[<em>]Kind of Student Body
[/ul]
What kind of student are you...
[ul][li]GPA & Courseload (APs, IBs, Honors?)[/li][</em>]Rank
[<em>]SATs
[</em>]Your High School (public magnet school, Hogwarts Academy, little red school house, Quaker school)<br>
[<em>]Extracurriculars
[</em>]Awards & Big Achievements
[li]Lifestyle (nerd, layed back, city guy, enjoys long walks in park, hippie)[/li][/ul]</p>
<p>Any preferences or thing this school must have...
[ul][li]For instance, diversity, strong academic reputation, focused and committed student body, residential campus, greeks and sports can't overbear academics...[/ul]</p>[/li]
<p>That was me, which eliminated a lot of school, like for me, PennState would have been a disaster, but good school for others...</p>
<p>SAT1: 1950
GPA: 4.0/4.0
Class Rank: 16/420
AP: Calculus, Chem
many hon. classes
many EA's..</p>
<p>States that I prefer to stay: PA, IL, MA, MD, etc, around that area
but NOT in South...... (right now i go to school in GA, it';s soooo boring,(i dont know, just for me... ) want to go up north.
CA- umm.. not really.. but maybe</p>
<p>I have similar stats as collegesuccess does and am very focused on medicine. My question is, does it matter to a school of medicine what undergrad school you went to, or will it nto matter as long as you have a high science GPA and MCATs? </p>
<p>I'm considering UT Austin any input on if i should do that, or go else where?</p>
<p>The 'best' premed school is where you will be able to: a) obtain highest gpa; b) participate in EC's; c) receive great recs. Other than that, it doesn't really matter. A 4.0 at Cal State xx will trump a 3.0 from Berkeley (nearly) every time. Ditto a 4.0 at UM-College Park vs. a 3.0 from Hopkins.</p>
<p>I am also pondering about this and that's why I decided to go to my state school rather than NYU (ED accepted into GSP, but non-binding). I mean I know the science courses aren't always a walk in the park but I rather choose a school not as competitive as those private ones. for EC's though, is it primarily Research/Hospital Volunteering? I mean getting an internship isnt that easy as it is so what EC's should I focus on?</p>
<p>You might want to include d)where you will be happiest. Some people seem to forget this. Also, if you have trouble connecting with teachers, it might be better for you to go to a smaller school, or one with a lot of faculty per student in the undergraduate classes. Recs matter, and if it says more than "student got A in class," all the better.</p>
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My question is, does it matter to a school of medicine what undergrad school you went to, or will it nto matter as long as you have a high science GPA and MCATs?
[/quote]
It matters as to what your undergrad experience is like. Will you have small classes or huge lectures? Will you have personal attention from profs, a premed advisor that helps steer you to the right courses and experiences (such as volunteer work) that is needed for admission? At the 2 ends, then, you have a pair of options. Figure everything out on your own and take ownership from day 1 in college to making sure you're doing the right things; this is the large state school experience. There are people who can offer advice, to be sure, but YOU go to THEM. On the other side is a personal environment where they help advise and steer you. </p>
<p>Does the school of medicine care which you came from? No. Should you care? An entirely different kettle of fish ...</p>
<p>yes that's exactly how it seemed to me...so in your own opinion... do you believe a huge state school is not the place for a premed student, and a smaller environment is more suitable?</p>
<p>thank u</p>
<p>Oh, that question is left for you to answer, some kids like me would die going to a state hub of 20,000+ students and are going to a liberal arts college down the road. Is that to say that Amherst College will prepare you for premed any better than UMass-Amherst? No, both will do a grea job, but I know which school I'll feel a lot more comfortable at, I'd rather live in nice comfy suites than in those 22 story residental towers down the road. It's all in how and where you want to spend your next four years.</p>
<p>haha i think UT is upwards of 60,000..but thanks for the input...so what are the pros and cons of both types of schools</p>
<p>Collegesuccess I can tell you from my own experience that Bowdoin College has a very successful pre-med program. About 91% of med school applicants get accepted per year (this is out of usually a pool 30-40 people). Some of the top notch med schools people get accepted to are: Yale, Harvard, UCSF, Mayo, Dartmouth, Brown, Cornell (Weill), Columbia, Upenn, Tufts, BU etc. Not to mention Bowdoin has a top notch chemistry and biology department. Another unique department that might interest you is neuroscience. In essence, there is alot to choose from. One thing that seperates Bowdoin and the LACs from Ivy League schools is the intimate learning enviroment. You truely get a personalized education and the professors get to know you by name (this is especially helpful when you need recommendations for med school). If you have any more questions I suggest you take a look at the Bowdoin Pre-Health website.</p>
<p>Now adam, do you really need to ask me thedifference between living at UT-Austin and say Trinity University or even TCU... you need to take a visit and tell yourself which you like, I can't decide for you, if it were for me, I would shove UT-Austin and Texas A&M where the sun don't shine and apply to Rice and Trinity, but that's me.</p>
<p>I graduated from a Shaker-based boardingschool of 120 up in the Adirondack Mountains (Upstate NY). Someone from a 3,000 student public high school in Fort Worth might say yay to Texas A&M and discard any school less than 2,000 students.</p>
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do you believe a huge state school is not the place for a premed student, and a smaller environment is more suitable?
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I can't predict where you'll be happier. I know what's best for me, but you're not me. Some people are the take-charge kind and like being on their own at 18; others prefer or need a bit more guidance. And there's the whole difference in atmosphere that Cre8tive1 described. You really need to visit samples of various types of colleges, talk to real students at these schools, find out what's right for YOU.</p>
<p>Certainly you can save a lot of money at the large public, but for some if not many kids spending the money for a smaller college is money well spent. And don't forget an astounding number of kids enter college intending on pre-med and end up switching career goals. Pick a college you'd want to attend no matter what, not one you think is the pipeline to med school ...</p>
<p>I think if you're looking for a school that is truly great in the sciences, presumably with a great reputation in research, then I think a big public school like collegesuccess was talking about is a pretty natural choice. It sounds like he/she wants a bigger scene very different from his/her HS one. Of the schools you mentioned, Michigan is by far best in the sciences. UIUC is great for engineering and some areas in business, but not very known for the sciences. UCLA is more known in social sciences I think, and Penn State just isn't nearly as good as the other three in any area. If you really want a great public school up north with good research and some other out-of-staters, Michigan really is the clear choice.</p>
<p>Great reputation in research doesn't have to be presumably flagship state schools, I could easily send some one to schools as small as University of Richmond or Colgate for research oppurtunities, but in reality... say I could easily send this kid to Tufts, Emory, Johns Hopkins, UofChicago, or Stanford, all well respected and reputable names in research, the last one even more than Michigan. You don't neccesarily need to go to a 30,000+ public school.</p>
<p>I want him to decide for himself before CCers start putting a word in for all the big state schools and Ivies, which is happens all too much here.</p>
<p>Penn is definitely a school to consider, especially because they have the Hospital of U of Penn right on campus for research/work experience. Johns Hopkins is also one of the best out there for premed.</p>
<p>Harvard, JHU, WUSTL, Penn, and Duke.. are all med school powerhouses and hence their undergrads are feeders to their own med schools.</p>