Better for Business...

<p>Which is better preparation for getting your MBA, CAS or ILR?</p>

<p>neither really - It's more about what you do AFTER you graduate as you'll most likely have to work for several years before you go into grad school for business. I think the average age at most business schools is like 28. </p>

<p>I do know many ILRies have gone on to get MBA's and the same can certainly be said for econ. It's less about what you majored in, and more about what you're doing for work.</p>

<p>Okay, well then which one is better for placing me in a job that is more conducive to a good MBA program?</p>

<p>again - neither. You can get identical jobs with both majors, in fact, your transcript can be nearly identical from both schools. </p>

<p>It's not as cut and dry as you think it is. We can start talking about the art history major last year who landed an ibanking job at Goldman Sachs if you want...</p>

<p>hm, well gomestar, you seem to know quite a lot about the program (as you go there). I understand that the ILR program is very flexible, but if I end up going there, how will I know which classes to take to best prepare me for a good job that could potentially lead to a good business school? I am defiantly leaning towards ILR though b/c the idea of it is very interesting to me.</p>

<p>the classes you take in ILR will often be similar to the ones you will encounter in graduate school, such as HR and OB...</p>

<p>i would say make sure to take business electives in ILR... </p>

<p>and as far as the art history major, well do we know what networks he had access to? i assume that the posters here are your avg clueless student...considering this question has been asked in similar fashions almost every other day!!!</p>

<p>Quite frankly, I'm sick of these threads, for two reasons. Firstly, people have to understand that a major/school within Cornell will make absolutely no difference with regards to the job they get when they get out. Employers may question your major, but it still won't really hurt your chances of getting the job you want in any respect.</p>

<p>Secondly, why are incoming freshman so intent on "what's going to get them the best job," or what's going to be "the most competitive" for their next degree? Are you really that anxious to be done with school and move on with the next, the longest (and arguably most boring) stage of your lives? Ladies and gents, I have news for you; you only live once, make the most of it. You're going to college. Learn to experience the many areas of study out there, make friends, learn about the world (and yourself).</p>

<p>In all honesty, this thing you all call "focus" is, in fact, "blindness." That's right. It's not your major, your school, or your singular focus on achieving a goal that's going to make the difference for you. By taking classes related to your "intended profession," which very likely will change by graduation anyway, you just lump yourself in with everyone else that wants that same job. You'll have pretty decent grades, a few job-related extracurriculars, and maybe a nice, related internship under your belt. Great! So does everyone else. You just fit the mold of every application your employer will see, congratulations on normality, mediocrity, and lacking uniqueness.</p>

<p>It's what you do at Cornell that will make the difference, not necessarily what classes you take or what your "single focus" is. Take a variety of classes, do well in them, get involved in things you're interested in, and learn something. Perhaps most importantly, make something of yourself. Take your interests and apply them in such a way as to further your goals, learn something, and have a good time. Start a club. Start a business. Create something. Do something unique. These are the things that will get you places in life, and you'll have a much better time doing them too. </p>

<p>What incoming freshman should be asking is "what major best suits my interests," "which major allows me the flexibility to take all the miscellaneous classes I want to take," and "what major will I get the most out of." I personally believe that an aspiring investment banker, who plans to go business school, would be wasting a lot of time if he/she took almost exclusively business courses as an undergrad just to look more "competitive." You'll be wasting a lot of opportunities to learn important lessons, make new friends, have a lot of fun, and gain new perspectives. A high price to pay if you ask me. [/rant]</p>

<p>darkfire: good points, few questions in regard to it though: is this a general statement or are you saying it is ridiculous to go into a program like ILR which you feel is too narrowly focused and does not give enough of a broad liberal arts education?</p>

<p>I agree with darkfire. </p>

<p>ILR is NOT narrow, in fact it's clearly one of the most diverse majors in Cornell (what other major touches heavily on history, econ, psych, sociology, and business). </p>

<p>Stop worrying about these little questions. If you want to, I can put together a schedule for you that could land you a job in ibanking ... let me grab a course catalog, some darts, and some friends and wherever the darts will land are the courses I will suggest. You need to lighten up, you may be in for a miserable 4 years of college if you don't. </p>

<p>"and as far as the art history major, well do we know what networks he had access to?"
yeah, the 'I've followed a passion and a major that I'm truly interested in' network, how rare.</p>

<p>abank: my comments were non-specific, and had nothing to do with ILR. However, given my points, it is implied that ILR, like any other major/school, closes no doors to you. -AJ</p>

<p>darkfire- very well said.<br>
My d is now a senior in ILR. She wants to enjoy every last day that she has at Cornell. It is beginning to hit her that she only has one more year to enjoy her life as a Cornell student<br>
She'll probably go through the Recruiting Process in the fall- but other than that she is concentrating on taking full advantage of her Cornell experience.</p>

<p>She was originally going to apply to Law School in the fall, but she now feels that it is too time consuming to travel and visit campuses- write essays etc-and that the whole law school admission process will just take away from her Senior year. She's not ready to let go of her college life. Nor should she as she still has a full year to go-</p>

<p>So choose a school wisely- one which you are proud of and one which will offer you numerous experiences to grow.</p>

<p>for my d and alot of others- she could not imagine being at any other school than Cornell. </p>

<p>PS-
I think the ILR school has enough flexibility that you can go in many different directions-- in business, law, public policy etc.</p>

<p>hey darkfire, forgot you were AJ!</p>

<p>lol i think you just defeated his purpose...i think he was trying to hide his name on CC</p>

<p>eh, it's all good. Wish the admin would just change my name slightly and make it easier.</p>

<p>look into AEM (Applied Economics and Management). it's the certified business school at Cornell.</p>

<p>uh he signed "AJ" i didnt give away anything...</p>

<p>Ok gents, let it go, it's all good.</p>

<p>darkfire - who are you? I dont mean names, but college, major, what grad year, experiences, etc?</p>

<p>College: CALS
Major: AEM
Year: '09
Experiences: ***?</p>

<p>you mean:</p>

<p>College: Archetecture
Major: Urban Planning
Year: '08</p>

<p>Name: Jason Drafts</p>

<p>(i think gomestar was trying to help you out there with the identity thing)</p>