In-and-out for lunch?
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Walking the S CA beach?
@NJSue i think you put it a bit harshly, but when the rubber hits the road, you’re right.
I like Harry & Meghan. I also think the English notion of primogeniture is a bit harsh. And it’s not in keeping with American views on treating children equally etc, but that’s what royal succession is all about. And there was confusion with “The Fab Four”, sharing offices, making appearances on behalf of the Crown, etc.
I think Meghan and Harry truly want to help the world. (Whether one agrees with their outlook is a different question). And they thought they had a platform because of Harry’s birth. But the Queen wants that platform reserved for what she seems to be in the English people’s interest, and won’t allow that platform to be used for other purposes, no matter how well intentioned that might be.
Since they want to make a difference, they can’t fall into obscurity. And they’ll have to keep their brand shiny and front and center. I just don’t think the interview helped them with their brand. And I’m still confused why they did it. No one could think that it would help family relations, and they have the experience with her dad airing dirty laundry to the media, so you would think they’d realize that this isn’t the best thing for their relationship or their brand. I didn’t mean to offend anyone by asking if they made money from the interview. But at least that would have made sense to me since they need to earn money (And I also don’t think it’s bad to make money from an honest interview; look how much Oprah and CBS made off of it, and it’s not even their story).
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I actually feel a bit sorry for both of them, for different reasons. But I have lost sympathy for them since the interview because they are self-presenting as victims instead of adults with agency and choices. This is a regrettable tendency in modern life. I also do not believe it is ever right to badmouth your family in public and I am disappointed in them for doing so. They smeared Charles, William and Kate. The crown may be a corrupt and archaic institution, but that does not justify personally besmirching your relatives, no matter the private tensions and resentments. If they were really courageous about “calling out” racism, they should have told the audience exactly what was said and by whom. They didn’t have the guts so they should have kept their mouths shut. Their son will watch this interview in future years and wonder which of his relatives stuck the knife in. Why would they do this? They just don’t seem to be thinking clearly.
This is the high-water mark of their notoriety and they burned their bridges with the family. I suspect that it will be all downhill from here for them, and that’s too bad. It didn’t have to be this way.
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Sad thing is Archie and his sibling will be reading about all this when they grow up. The complain by mom about not getting the title of Prince for her child is baffling and contradicting when mom and dad walked away from their royal roles/duties themselves because they find the life of being a royal stifling. Weren’t they the ones who were willing to give up his birthright in the first place?
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And your view is precisely why I think the interview hurt their brand. I think the only ones who gained from this are Oprah and CBS.
I feel sorry for them. I think they are sincere people who want to do good with their lives. I think they had a basic misunderstanding about their role and the platform. But I also think the family stone-walled them. I still can’t understand the family not paying for their son’s security while they were active royals and not allowed to work on their own. I also can’t understand why the family couldn’t have carved out a specific niche for them, and when I say that, I mean for Harry with the military. I’m sorry for all of them that it’s come to this.
I’m not sure even Oprah gained much from this interview, besides money and publicity of course. It was a one sided interview, the people who were talked about don’t even feel they can rebut things . Frankly, since she is a friend of theirs, I think she would have been better off warning them of the possible pitfalls to their brand of doing this kind of interview.Not to mention the damage to family relationships. Like others, I still don’t understand what they were trying to accomplish here.
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It’s been reported that they were not paid. I wonder though if Oprah or CBS made a nice donation to Archwell for the interview.
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If Oprah didn’t make a donation (and I suspect she did) she certainly mentioned their foundation plenty. Although I didn’t think the Sussexes did a great job of promoting
Then, even if they were not “paid” directly , they thought or were led to believe that their brand would benefit and their charity would get money if they did this interview. I still don’t get it and they may regret doing it . We’ll see.
Oprah & Harry are in a partnership with Apple TV to produce a mental health series, but that is old news. They did mention it in the interview.
Oprah mentioned the Sussexes foundation Archewell several times during the interview.
I can remember that Oprah mentioned that she and Prince Harry are collaborating on a mental health program.
But she did mention their foundation also, that was what I was referring to.
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This is an interesting article about Meghan’s passport issues. She claims that she didn’t see her passport after Palace officials took it. However, she made a number of foreign trips that she would have had to use it.
I don’t think I’ve seen mention of Harry’s personal flirtations with ‘racist behavior’; several over the years, but perhaps the most memorable was his donning of a ‘nazi’ uniform, complete with swastika armband, for a dress-up party. At the time, that caused huge outrage among the Jewish community, and particularly among Holocaust survivors.
Another incident was when Harry referred to one of his South Asian army buddies by a racial slur; he received army disciplinary proceeding for that one.
Have he and Meghan worked through Harry’s tendencies? If so, how? It might have been enlightening had Oprah raised Harry’s failings during her interview - to show us even the most mighty among us, are human!
Not being an apologist for Harry, but most of us gained in wisdom and maturity between 20 and 36.
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The interview is on again tonight at 8 on CBS .
Well that just sucks. The CBS drama’s were supposed to be all new tonight.
It was bad enough that the airing in Australia preempted an episode of the Amazing Race Australia, but now I don’t have Blue Bloods tonight. Yet another thing to blame Meghan for. 
Welcome to my First-world problems.
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Wouldn’t other people handle all of that for her? Does the President carry his own passport when flying to a foreign country? Not a criticism. Just wondering how it works.
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That was explained in a roundabout way by someone who know how it works:
basically, servants do take your passports, papers, etc. Not to deprive you of them, but because at that point they’ll take care of everything.
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I would guess this issue also may fit into the whole Royal protocol stuff she says she got no help with and didn’t understand. Sources have refuted her claim that she was offered no guidance in the ways of the palace and royal life. She was supposedly assigned a mentor from the time of the engagement.