Big News From Harry and Meghan - Royal Family Stepping Back

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I guess I would just prefer that they take care of themselves (the nitty gritty details) in a more private fashion and then help others, revealing their experiences in a more broad sense. Like, “I experienced depression and did X to help myself” versus “my relative did Y to me”.

And if you want out of that life style, that is fine, but you can’t have it both ways (I want out, but I want my family to have titles and be able to still do these part of my royal responsibilities).

Of course they are welcome to do it any way they like, but you can’t be surprised if the family doesn’t welcome you back with open arms.

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But this resurfaced in response to the announcement Martin Bashir’s BBC interview with Princess Di was acquired inter false pretenses. I don’t fault William or Harry for speaking out.

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Agree. My comment was just a general in response to the whole “exit” situation.

But that was months ago. The only reason it resurfaced now is b/c of the BBC news. And it will come up again when baby #2 is born. They are straddling 2 worlds. They have celebrity by virtue of birth.

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I’m not sure that is quite right. Harry’s documentary series with Oprah was released on Apple+ on Friday, along with the People magazine interview. That was all a big preplanned media blitz.

It just so happened that the results of the UK inquiry by Lord Dyson into the Diana interview were released on Thursday. That seems to have been a coincidence and the vast majority of Harry’s latest comments appear to have been recorded before that came out.

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In contrast to Diana, who always visited and expressed empathy for the poor, afflicted, orphans, maimed, etc, the Sussex couple doesn’t seem to be spending much time helping those less fortunate or raising money for or awareness of their plight. Diana was very visible in fundraising for worthy causes, lending her presence and gowns to various charitable endeavors and raising millions for them.Still waiting for similar work rather than gossipy interviews from this couple.

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Diana had the support of the monarchy. Even when she didn’t have their “support”, IYKWIM.

As for Harry, maybe he knew, maybe he didn’t, but its not like he is living some sort of reality tv show.

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No, I don’t know what you mean at all.

Harry seems to be his mother’s son when it comes to charity.

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Is it really “playing the victim” if you are actually being victimized? Look at all the outrage against Harry and Meghan; selfish, spoiled, manipulative, whiners; whose best interests does that narrative serve? You don’t think it might be very useful to draw attention from dear old Uncle (randy) Andy, do you? The queen’s reported favorite son and close personal associate of the late Jeffery Epstein, who the FBI would really like to question…

Funny how all the tabloids and other critics just can’t stop talking about that horrible, mixed-race, American, divorcee and her weak, stupid husband never seem to mention the family member with actual criminal allegations and who has been engaged in shady dealings his entire adult life.

I’m sure it’s all a coincidence though, right? I mean, how dare they object to being criticized for being dragged through the mud. The nerve!

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If you want to talk about the lack of media coverage for all of Epstein’s famous male friends, I could start a new thread? :wink:

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As far as I know, Prince Andrew with the exception of saying something about the death of his father, has been very very quiet.

He did give an interview that was so disastrous that he basically was told that he needed to step back from public life. Which he has done for the past couple of years.

I’m not sure why there is suddenly all the animosity on this subject. I did give an opinion, that I think that airing your dirty laundry publicly isn’t a great look.

I have a beef with one of my siblings. It’s a private matter. I don’t go on Facebook and talk about it. In fact, I’m happy to go to the same events that they are at, to keep the family peace.

I had a dear departed friend who got into big fights over politics on Facebook with her sister. I finally said to her, you know that everyone can see your disagreements. She didn’t think of it that way, then she started posting inspirational thoughts and pictures of her grandkids. I enjoyed that much more.

This is probably the last I’m going to comment on this couple. I’m tired of thinking about it, even though I don’t do that very often.

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Just want to remind folks that debating isn’t allowed. Please refrain from going back and forth with one person. Thanks!

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I certainly feel for Harry and his trauma of losing his mother. I just still am having a hard time getting a sense of what he is trying to accomplish with these increasingly negative interviews and statements.

There is hurt there, obviously,maybe some sibling rivalry, but he just seems to be moving more to estrangement with his family . Maybe that’s what Harry and Meghan want but it will definitely effect their kids. Live your own life but not sure why they need to burn bridges with the royal family. Cycles of family estrangement are also difficult.

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My sense is Charles was more loving and hands on than Philip. Harry is a new parent and I think will learn in time that all parents make mistakes. I’m sure Charles did his best.

How many people know how to deal with a sudden loss like Diana’s loss was? From what I read it was Philip who encouraged the boys to walk behind the coffin, yet Harry holds the grudge against Charles. I guess Harry wants to hear ‘I’m sorry’ from Charles, but I don’t think he will hear that after the way he is approaching their relationship

Favoritism within families can be incredibly destructive. Potentially tearing families apart. Monarchies have structural favoritism based on birth order. Relative favoritism for other than the first born even gets worse as the first born has kids. I would expect that some will do better with than than others. But not everyone.

I don’t understand going public to say hurtful things about one’s family. It’s unkind. I don’t care if it’s cathartic to the individual. It’s one thing if it’s in a forum like this, because most of us aren’t famous enough to get in the news. Talking to a friend or therapist is fine, but hey, I’m going to tell the world? Especially if the world is hanging on to and analyzing every little morsel. Nope. Are these people getting money for these interviews?

My younger son every now and then says, “Mom, when we were younger, why didn’t you (fill in the blank)?” Relatively minor things, but I feel terrible. My sister will do that to my mother sometimes, and she is very distressed, tormented. Doing this in public would be cruel.

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Saying things publicly may make you feel good but would make those you are speaking about feel bad. How can anyone feel good while making someone else feel bad? It’s cruel.

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After having your father’s affair and your parents’ divorce, your mother’s death and funeral and your own wedding televised for billions, I am not sure why one would have the same concept of “private family matters” as most people on this thread seem to have. :roll_eyes:

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