Biology/Biomedical Sciences Applicants 2008

<p>Hi l3monkid - It's interesting to read what you have to say about Yale and Harvard. Would you say that Stanford is at the same level in terms of science as Harvard? I really like Stanford, but uncertain about how it compares with Harvard and MIT in terms of reputation in the sciences.</p>

<p>bo435, I would say Stanford is on par with Harvard and MIT scientifically, maybe even edging them in a few areas. Yale is not very comparable in terms of science research to Harvard, MIT, and Stanford, in my opinion.</p>

<p>Hi I just found this thread today,</p>

<p>Here are my schools</p>

<p>Accepted: UCLA</p>

<p>Interviews: UMICH PIBS, UCSD, UCHSC,</p>

<p>waiting on: Harvard HBTM, U. Washington- Pathology</p>

<p>rejected UCSF</p>

<p>Nobody here has heard from HBTM because its so small, that sucks I'm assuming I was rejected too. Has anyone heard from UW, I applied by paper at the end of December, but I was wondering if anyone else has heard from them yet?</p>

<p>Also, does anyone know how UCLA ranks against UMICH or UCSD in terms of influence? How about funding?</p>

<p>I absolutely agree with masta_ace. The west coast science such as Standford and UC Berkeley is just as good and sometimes better than Harvard and MIT. The Ivy League is just a historical thing that no longer completely lines up with the quality of the schools (although they are all great schools in at least some areas). I personally didn't apply to the west coast schools because I wanted to stay closer to home in the east. In any event, I'm sure you could get an excellent education and do great science at about 100 different US schools - public, private, east, west, etc.</p>

<p>Molliebatmit,
Do BBS students have on-campus housing or Harvard-subsidized housing with other grad students, or does everyone generally find their own apartments throughout the Boston area? Thanks!</p>

<p>There's virtually no on-campus housing available -- there are a few rooms in Vanderbilt Hall, the medical student dorm, but I don't know any PhD students who actually live there.</p>

<p>Harvard is affiliated with a number of properties in Boston/Cambridge, but the prices for those apartments are set at market rates because the real estate office believes subsidizing rent would be a form of financial aid which should be handled by individual departments.</p>

<p>There are a good number of BBS students who live in [url=<a href="http://www.trilogyboston.com/%5DTrilogy%5B/url"&gt;http://www.trilogyboston.com/]Trilogy[/url&lt;/a&gt;] together -- it's an apartment building that's about a five-minute walk from Longwood. A lot of other people live in Harvard, Porter, and Central squares in Cambridge. There will actually be a housing tour during the recruitment weekends, and current graduate students will drive recruits around and show different living options in the Boston area.</p>

<p>Does anyone know how competitive/selective is UCSF compared to Harvard, MIT, and Stanford in terms of biomedical graduate studies?</p>

<p>Bioengineering/Biomedical Engineering Status:</p>

<p>Berkeley - Rejected
MIT - Rejected</p>

<p>WAITING:
JHU
UCSD
DUKE
NORTHWESTERN
STANFORD</p>

<p>Has anyone heard from BME/BioE programs at the schools I'm still waiting for?</p>

<p>bo435, I think UCSF is just as competitive as Harvard, MIT, and Stanford. UCSF also requires the subject GRE exam while the others don't. Below is a website of the US News rankings of Ph.D. biological science schools. Don't follow it too closely though because it is not a very good measure of good/bad schools/programs, especially as you go lower down the list. A lot of schools are also either too highly ranked (i.e. Yale, Cornell, UT Austin) or great schools that are ranked too low (UMass, in my opinion), although there is no list that is perfect.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.scripps.edu/phd/usnewsranking/bestschools2008.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.scripps.edu/phd/usnewsranking/bestschools2008.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>[edit] The schools I mentioned above is my opinions for biomedical research. I know Cornell has great programs for other aspects of biological research, especially plant/agriculture genetics. Weill Cornell, however, has a great biomedical graduate program as they share faculty with Sloan-Kettering, which has tons of big name scientists. Every school has their own pros and cons.</p>

<p><a href="http://chronicle.com/stats/productivity/page.php?institution=22&byinst=Go%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://chronicle.com/stats/productivity/page.php?institution=22&byinst=Go&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>"The Faculty Scholarly Productivity Index by Academic Analytics ranks universities based on faculty publications, citations, research grants and awards."</p>

<p>When the hell is UCSD BMS going to start sending out all or most of their invites? I know they invited a few rare people in December, but I'm sure there's going to be a lot more than that.. This is making me anxious..</p>

<p>hey all,</p>

<pre><code>Found this forum today after talking to some gradcafe people. Im a bioengineer at UCSD and have applied to the following schools:
</code></pre>

<p>Berkeley-waiting
UCSD-Interview
Duke-Interview
MIT-waiting
Stanford-Waiting
JHU-waiting
UWashington-Interview</p>

<p>masta_ace- I'm sorry to say I think theyve sent out most of their invites. A couple of friends heard back in the middle of january. There could be more or a second round though- but their weekend is like the first weekend of march I think.</p>

<p>BSCR250,</p>

<p>I submitted my application online to UW pathobiology in mid November. I heard back from them at the beginning of January. The open house is Feb. 26th and 27th. Hope this helps!</p>

<p>Regarding the "placement" of schools that seems to be a running topic... (don't get me wrong, I wish I had a perfect list just as much as the next guy, but this is what I've found...) </p>

<p>No matter how you try to rank schools, it always seems to end up pretty abstract and justifiable any way you want to look at it. I opted to look at them based on NIH funding in biomedical and basic biology-related fields, and number of publications in journals like Cell and Nature. In that light, the breakdown is about as follows: (there are only "rough" numbers here, so look'em up before you actually use any of this info)</p>

<p>Harvard, UCSF, Stanford, Yale, Duke, UW, MIT, etc. all seem to get more than 100 million each year in NIH training, research, and fellowship grants. Some more, (harvard, UW at 150-160) and some less (yale, duke at 110-130). That also boils down to between 150-250 individual grants. <shrug> But if you want to look just at grant money, UW beats them all... even harvard. (in 2005 or 2006... i think)</shrug></p>

<p>On the other hand, Harvard gets the loins share of publications (in Cell) every year. And by lions share, i mean 50-60 compared to the 15-25 that MIT, UCSF, and Stanford get. Yale regularly fits in the this pack, though seems to have a few less than stanford or UCSF. UW, on the other hand, trails way behind in this area. </p>

<p>So if you really want to know how great a school will be for you, you need to look at individually at the labs you could possibly join. Because even if a school has 8 nobel prize winners, you'll never benefit unless you join their lab. And even then, sometimes you have to be a little crazy to work in a lab who prides themselves on 2 papers in Cell every year. <heh heh=""> But seriously, look at individual labs and find out how they are funded (NIH posts grant info online each year) and check out A) how often they publish, and B) what journals they publish in. Then you don't have to concern yourself about the "name" of the school, or its undergraduate reputation. Because i'm pretty sure that if your resume has first-author papers in Genes and Development, or Cell, or Nature on when graduate, no one is really going to care if you're from harvard or berkley, or yale, or north dakota. (as a matter of fact, if you have papers like that and you're from somewhere "off the radar", you're probably even more impressive.)</heh></p>

<p>I just received a interview invitation, which says, </p>

<p>"These interviews will be conducted on a one-to-one basis"</p>

<p>I was wondering which does this mean? only interviewed by one person, or by several persons, with each alone, on a "one-to-one basis"?</p>

<p>Thanks!</p>

<p>Denny - it sounds like they mean that your interviews will each be with one professor and that you will be the only student being interviewed by that professor at that time slot. This is as opposed to some I have seen where 2 students are being interviewed simultaneously by the same professor or when 2 professors interview one student at the same time. Wow, that was way more complicated than it had to be.</p>

<p>For anybody who is still waiting on Stanford biosciences, I got a rejection letter on Friday. At least that suspense is over!</p>

<p>Just found this forum today.
Anyone else applying to Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory? I'm 99% set on CSHL now that I'm in, though it's hard to shake off that discomforting feeling of being rejected so many times.</p>

<p>Applied: CSHL, Penn, Rockefeller, Yale, Harvard, MIT, Scripps
Accepted: CSHL
Interview: CSHL, Penn
Rejected: Stanford, MIT, Rockefeller
No news: Harvard, Yale, Scripps</p>

<p>Raegan - when did you get your CSHL acceptance (and which was your interview weekend)? I'd pretty much given up on getting in there before the interviews, but I like resolution. :)</p>