Biomedical Ethics?

<p>Hey just wondering, does anyone know anything about the biomedical ethics class (Public Health 201)? It sounds really interesting but idk if I can take it now without something else first. And if anyone has already taken it, what did you think of it? Who would you recommend? Crookston or Kurth?</p>

<p>Thanks.</p>

<p>I think you mean 233, not 201.</p>

<p>Either way, I’ve never taken it but a ton of my friends have. You don’t need any prereqs (I don’t think they actually have 100 level phealth classes), so feel free to go ahead and take it.</p>

<p>I’ve heard it’s an easy class. But can’t offer advice on profs.</p>

<p>I took it for a Humanities credit – didn’t have either of those professors. In my class we had 2 essay exams and 1 paper. TA’s graded everything. Average grade ended up as a B (I got an A ;-p). Really not much work. There were about 300 pages of reading total.<br>
Discussions were really interesting, but I assume the actual class is highly dependent on who teaches it. My professor (Doris who is really laid back) liked House…so we’d sometimes discuss episodes if they were relevent to subject material (which a lot were).</p>

<p>You don’t need any type of background or prereq. Just make sure you can write decent papers / essay exams.</p>

<p>awesome thanks everyone. From the looks of it, I think I’ll go for it but I’m also taking writing I, so idk if I can take that much essay writing in one semester…</p>

<p>also marcdvl, how did the grading work in your class?</p>

<p>It was an incredibly stupid system. Everything was graded out of 4.0 and an A- would be a 3.7 or up (3.7 out of 4 is 92.5%). 3.3 would be a B+ which is an 82.5%…but then theres a giant gap between 3.3 and 3.7 which in normal classes is 1-2% and this is 10%. It was really weird.
30% test 1
30% paper 1
30% test 2
10% participation (which was just attendance which was taken every class)</p>

<p>Class averaged around a 3.2 which was a B/B+. On the paper 1/4 of the class got the equivalent of an A, 1/2 a B, 1/4 a C. In the end about 1/3 of us got an A or A- and the rest probably got some type of B. Probably around 5 C’s (the class had 75 people).</p>

<p>A week before the essay exams we were given 8 possible questions. On the day of the test 5 of the 8 were chosen, and we had to answer 3 of them (each of the 3 could be considered a standard 5 paragraph essay). To study we would basically write the essays before hand for most of the questions so the exam itself was mainly an issue of memorizing what we studied – (and obviously closed book/notes).</p>

<p>Needless to say it was the most confusing grading system I’ve ever had. But again, I’m sure different professors do it differently.</p>

<p>Edit: When I took the class there were only a couple of freshmen. It was mostly evenly split between sophomores and juniors, with some seniors. I wouldn’t take it until after completing Writing 1 as your entire grade depends on Writing. I took it first semester Junior year, and had taken Tech Writing (engineering school writing) the previous semester which definitely helped.</p>

<p>It’s not a difficult class by any means, but if you write poorly your grade will at best be a B, even if you nail all the topics discussed in class and in the book. It’s graduate students reading them and they said multiple times they want to be able to read through it quickly and understand what you are trying to say. Clear writing was just as important as the topic itself. If you did well in AP English classes/AP exam you’ll probably be fine. Otherwise I’d hold off and take it at a later time (but do take it if you’re interested in the subject matter, it’s a pretty cool class).</p>

<p>I see. Thanks for the help. But one more thing: What other electives would you recommend? I’m in the b-school and we need a lot of elective requirements so I’d like to get another elective into my schedule this semester but idk what to pick, but preferably something not heavy on writing…</p>

<p>any recommendations?</p>

<p>Psych 100b doesn’t have any writing, and is a pretty standard elective for most students.</p>

<p>Phil 100g - intro to logic is a good class.</p>

<p>I’ve had good experiences with 300+ anthro classes, no prereqs, no writing requirements for the ones I’ve taken, and they’re generally pretty easy and cover interesting topics.</p>

<p>@generallyrong, really? which ones?</p>

<p><a href=“https://acadinfo.wustl.edu/pdf/class_of_2015_03_15_11.pdf[/url]”>https://acadinfo.wustl.edu/pdf/class_of_2015_03_15_11.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>this shows the elective requirements I need to cover. I don’t think I can fit psych in because my mondays and wednesdays are too booked. I need something for tuesdays and thursdays</p>

<p>TheFallenOne- you didn’t list which major you are intending to pursue. Can you clarify?</p>

<p>Also, what are you currently enrolled in? It will be easier to make suggestions if we can ax out things that won’t work.</p>

<p>Your answer re. major will also let us know if it makes sense to suggest “science-light” classes. It makes more sense for some b-school majors than others. I’m engineering student, so when I think ‘electives’ I tend to think H/SS/Th/Art but you have more options than that (natural sciences like EPSC classes don’t count towards engineering elective requirements).</p>

<p>I haven’t really decided for sure but I’m pretty interested in healthcare management and marketing.</p>

<p>I don’t think it matters all that much at this point because all business majors take many of the same classes now and the general electives are completely up to us. The only major difference is the professional requirements listed on that link which are classes specific to our major. I believe it’s easier to think of business in general as one major and the areas (management, marketing, accounting, etc.) as specialties</p>

<p>Also @marcdvl, how much writing is involved in Phil 100G? Haha sorry I’m just desperate to find an elective not heavy on writing. It’s not that I’m bad or I hate seriously hate it, but in situations where I have to write a lot, my creativity just runs dry very quickly</p>

<p>Intro to logic has no writing whatsoever. It’s more of a math class, but taking it lets you understand things in a different way. I would recommend it to everyone. </p>

<p>It’s also pretty full so I’d recommend signing up for it asap (second section has only 3 on waitlist). Your choices if you haven’t registered yet will probably be dictated by spaces left and not what you want.</p>

<p>brave new crops, culture and environment (both taught by Glenn Stone), and i’m considering taking the social landscapes class this semester</p>

<p>also does anyone know how much writing is in Writing I? I know it’s gonna be different for every class but I hear every class is required to write a certain number of essays</p>

<p>You have to write a bunch of essays and then a end of year “research” paper thats 15-20 pages or so.</p>

<p>alright so right now I have both biomedical ethics and Philosophy in my schedule just in case. I’m off the waitlist for biomedical ethics but still #3 in philosophy, at this point should I just get rid of philosophy?</p>

<p>No, stay on the waitlist and go to the class. Lots of people will drop a big intro level course like that.</p>