bittorrent? limewire?

<p>what does "kicked off network mean?"</p>

<p>...will i get sued, charged?</p>

<p>Possibly. It means you can't use the internet anywhere on U of M's campus. It means for classes you need assignments for, anything via the internet, just became a large pain in the ass to have other people help you get stuff and such.</p>

<p>lol i can always use guest</p>

<p>but ahab (i can tell ur good at computers)</p>

<p>How about this plan:</p>

<ol>
<li>Use Wi-fi at cafe's and stuff. Change IP every 30 min. Download only short period of time</li>
<li>Encrypt (Azureus has this option)</li>
</ol>

<p>...and i'm set to go!</p>

<p>
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Use Wi-fi at cafe's and stuff. Change IP every 30 min. Download only short period of time

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This would work, as long as the cafe doesn't block the network ports that peer-to-peer applications use. They might, they might not. You won't know until you try it. From what I understand most cafes and coffee shops use pretty much the same types of routers and access points you can pick up at Best Buy, so I doubt they'll be doing any heavy packet sniffing like what UM could do. I don't know what download speed would be like at such places, either. If you live within range of an unencrypted access point that someone just has set up in their house or whatever this would work too, but it's illegal and I am NOT advocating it.</p>

<p>
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Encrypt (Azureus has this option)

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Nope. No amount of encryption will help you if UM blocks the network ports Azureus uses (and it's BT, so they do). You could tell Azureus to listen on a different range of ports. However, your various UNIX traffic routing tables have options to block BT traffic on any and all ports. I have no idea what's in place at UM as far as network security goes, these are merely strategies they might use. Using a different set of ports will probably get you in trouble in the end, though, because a Bittorrent-sized stream of traffic coming from your IP address is going to look suspicious no matter what. The sysadmins at UM can see anything and everything that goes in and out of your computer. They won't look at it unless they have good reason to, but it's best not give them any reason.</p>

<p>i'm talking about the wireless internet in my dorm, on first floor (still UM)</p>

<p>can they catch me if i'm WIRELESS?</p>

<p>how will they track me down?</p>

<p>Wireless Ethernet uses an IP address that is assigned on a per-user basis, just like the wired variety. It's no different in that regard. They'll still know who you are.</p>

<p>The impression I got last year is pretty much the opposite. They seem more like the bark but no bite type. First of all they act as if setting up a wireless router will get you in loads of trouble, but tons of people had them, broadcasting SSIDs and many with no passwords, and no one did anything. In fact they had no clue.</p>

<p>Furthermore, from the way they were operating it seemed that they were only monitoring traffic on a per hall basis, because it was only when a hall's sum traffic would get to high that they would throttle back the hall's access. Now I'm not saying they aren't blocking BT ports, they probably are because it's not at all difficult to block ports. But don't give them too much credit and certainly don't become paranoid about it. I sometimes maxed out my line for a couple of days straight and never even got a notice about it. Instead of trying to come up with a master plan to use BT just spend a few bucks a month and get a usenet subscription. In the end with the risk gone you'll be happier.</p>

<p>what about IRC?</p>

<p>Why would someone openly broadcast an SSID?...or have no password at all?</p>

<p>Because they don't know better/are too lazy to setup encryption and an admin password.</p>

<p>Ahab, you said </p>

<p>Wireless Ethernet uses an IP address that is assigned on a per-user basis, just like the wired variety. It's no different in that regard. They'll still know who you are.</p>

<p>True, they know my IP address, and the know my computer info , because i'm wirelessly connected to UM's network.</p>

<p>BUT, how will they know my real NAME and where I LIVE?? unless they send a swat team to bust on me while i'm downloading stuff, everything will disappear once i shut down my computer and renew my IP</p>

<p>This is dependent upon whether or not they use static or dynamic routing at UM. If they use static, they know it's you. It can't be anyone but you, because such addresses are assigned on a per-user basis, and they'd take names in that case.. If they use dynamic, it'll change now and then. I don't know what they use for certain. So, I'm really not much help there.</p>

<p>"Wireless Ethernet uses an IP address that is assigned on a per-user basis, just like the wired variety. It's no different in that regard. They'll still know who you are."</p>

<p>But, if they don't care, why does it matter?</p>

<p>They do use static IP's. </p>

<p>"and they'd take names in that case.."</p>

<p>Actually, they don't.</p>

<p>"Because they don't know better/are too lazy to setup encryption and an admin password."</p>

<p>Yeah, because it's sooo hard to set up a password. Or maybe they just weren't paranoid and were, I don't know, sharing?</p>

<p>Man, I'd glad I wasn't in a dorm with guys like you. If no one's out to get you, it is paranoia, and that's the case here.</p>

<p>can they catch you if you don't share the music?</p>

<p>I am going to die without BT. I need my **** man. I might have to put in a call to those CS guys.</p>

<p>Samwise: you and I obviously differ on the issue of network security. I'd rather encrypt my wireless and look a bit less generous than lose my term paper because the person across the hall hit a couple bad files on Limewire.</p>

<p>How is that possible?</p>

<p>There are plenty of viruses out there that look for local area connections to jump through. One of them happens to float its way to your computer and bam there goes your hard drive.</p>

<p>they dont just "Float" unless you share your hardrive or you download something to it</p>

<p>"There are plenty of viruses out there that look for local area connections to jump through."</p>

<p>Um, your whole U of M dorm is one big *** LAN anyway.</p>