Book thread

<p>I kinda said this on this thread page 4 post#52 but now see that lost in Tiger mom- usual Bears’ side tracking </p>

<p>-this reminds me of the time " the nurture assumption " was published.
<a href=“http://www.amazon.com/Nurture-Assump...5018376&sr=1-1[/url]”>http://www.amazon.com/Nurture-Assump...5018376&sr=1-1&lt;/a&gt;
It started out with Malcolm Gladwell’s rather nice NYer interview with the author. then cheapo gossip papers / press picked it up dubbing as
"parents do not matter! friends do! "
which, is totally out of context if you read er… some 500 hundred pages of tiny no frill font no pictures research paper-sh book. I bulldozed thru because I was angry at first, then there were aha! moments as I understand culture more, how history of parenting style changed over the decades in western culture and why, let alone how thing are done in other parts of the world flora fauna included (the author is this brain grandma covers all weird stuff from chicklit to detective novel. I had to read dozen or so more books she mentioned to get them half way) and the book became sort of my keystone or, tape measure of my thought ( spying/ disecting) process up to my kid’s pre teen years. - his hormone kicked in, nothing mattered anymore but daily survival, physically, monetary, emotionally, last thing I needed was generic “parenting book”
now what, 15 or so years since first published, her “theory” is somewhat become norm and in the way respected in academia and between common advice givers.</p>

<p>It was 1994, I think. After Penelope what’s her name and Dr.mom etc, advice giving -parenting book had this trait, what’s parents do to kids can up their chance on anything, so moms would hang mobile over cribs, play Mozart and such, do “I” communication, “I feel hurt when you do this and that” " I don’t feel that is fair what you said to your sister, how do you feel if someone said that to you?"
never " you hurt me" " I don’t like you" “you are bad”
Judith Harris was a college child psychology text book writer because she was sickly and couldn’t leave home. She realized that from her own experience and researches, she no longer believed what she was made to write. She published her finding in respected psychology peer journal and gotten rave reviews, then everyone wonder her brilliance yet lack of credentials.
The book was an answer to such interrogation done by hi mighty doctors, profs asked her
" who are you? jobless iron worker or something?"
The publisher offered her book deal was not that respected academic one, yet NYer interview by Malcolm Gladwell put her on the map.
BUT
Judith put Malcolm on the map as well. He was brown away by Judith and started writing about psychology, which eventually culminated in “Tipping Point”
he acknowledged Judith in the book, even named her before his parents!
Then sort of dumped her.
I love Malcolm but will forever remind him because who and why he is the guy he is now… OK, that is VERY biased,
I did write in " ask me" card at Malcolm’s book talk at 92st Y " did Judith Harris really influenced you to write about psychology? What did you do when you are teenage boy in Canada, really nothing but cows? Do you think you are privileged? ( he is)"
He answered last two questions, ignored the first, which I believe because it’s true!!!
don’t worry grandma ( Judith) I will fight for you.</p>

<p>there there Bears’side-track again.
Read it! folks, I mean you are done child-rearing, so read her second book, No Two Alike.</p>

<p>bears i didnt tell you about my new found love of Judith Harris because I just discovered her. I read the NYer article a million years ago, thought it was cool that people even thought about stuff like that, but babyswitters was too little for me to worry if I was doing it right, at the time, it was more about making sure he didnt run into traffic, or stick things in electric sockets. Im in the middle of No Two Alike, and will read the first one next. She is so great.</p>

<p>Ok these books sound like they would be right up my alley. But they’re not on NOOK, at least not the first one. Grr. Nothing worse than a new toy and then it won’t play.
Gotta get some work done.</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.gladwell.com/1998/1998_08_17_a_harris.htm[/url]”>http://www.gladwell.com/1998/1998_08_17_a_harris.htm&lt;/a&gt;
did it show? you can read Malcolm’s article ^here.
now, was it 1998? then I should have not said what I did? He was already writing this was two or so years. OK, he PUBLISHED tipping point, because of her!!!</p>

<p>Books that are not major year-around seller would be ditched too soon, that is the trouble with B&N.</p>

<p>Currently reading “Free Food for Millionaires” by Min Jin Lee, main character is a daughter of Korean immigrants, a Princeton grad, and her journey thru life after Princeton. I love the books that take you into another culture, I always learn something interesting!.</p>

<p>it’s not a book but NYer magazine this week
I seen three people giggling in the subway so far on the same article by (about?)
Tina Fey.
I don’t know if I get hand me downs soon. so planing on going to B&N to read.</p>

<p>Just finished Cane River, a story about 5 generations of a black family going back to slavery times. It was an Oprah’s Book Club pick, so wasn’t sure if I’d like it, but it was actually very good. Absolutely amazing what went on back then, things you wouldn’t imagine today. But they are still fighting the Civil War down here - went to a rodeo in a small town nearby and the opening ceremony was 3 riders, one with an American flag and the other 2 with Confederate flags. Not really sure why they needed 2…</p>

<p>sneak read NYer.
note of excuse: I always

  1. wash my hands before touch any merchandize
  2. open pages only 60 degree or less with min. pressure
  3. sneeze onto my armpit
  4. put back where I find it
    at B&N.
    even for People or US magazine, rather I feel like washing hands after scanning those juicy stories.</p>

<p>Tina Fey
I did not find anything that funny. What’s wrong with me?
maybe people were giggling about the part guys are pe* ing in the cup or jar at her job?
anyone else?</p>

<p>In view of a newspaper column I recently read, I would like to get a recommendation on a good book on Buddhism, not the “what should I eat or how to meditate” kind, but one that describes the history, thought process, philosophy, etc. TrinSF, maybe you know of a good text?</p>

<p>More about Tibet than Buddhism and older than I am but I just finished Seven Years in Tibet. Great back story for what they have going on now. Study/lunch over, back to school for one little class!</p>

<p>see that smarty?
GSH reads nice books, not only won’t ignore you.</p>

<p>redbug
I think Trin showed off all those books she is studying in her class in some kids’ thread, if you search it behind her back.
doubt she’d check this thread.
or PM and ask, she will answer YOU!!</p>

<p>^ you’re funny - I may have to review your close to 2,000 posts!</p>

<p>be my guest and tell me if you could not possibly understand what I am sayin’ ?
here at artland, people gotten used to, and/or maybe don’t want to be a ***** so they don’t complain.
but when I talk to kids or normal parents in parents forum, I can never get thru.</p>

<p>Books, books, and more books. I usually don’t have several books in progress, but right now I do. Manga girl made me take her to a cool used book store in Peekskill several weeks ago and of course I could not resist some bargains, one of which was The Shipping News by Annie Proulx. I’d always intended to see that movie - -I was charmed by Cape Breton in Nova Scotia a couple of years ago and would love to go to Newfoundland and Labrador someday. I should get around to putting it in my netflix queue. I’m probably about half way through that.<br>
My boss’ boss left a gift for me (!) on my chair while I was gone which was ‘The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks’ by Rebecca Skloot, which is something right down my alley (since it involves clinical research issues that I work with every day – in this case the issue of Informed Consent). D1 was reading it and I just started it but wanted to get my other reading done so I could give Henrietta’s story my full attention. On the Nook I read The Sherlockian by Graham Moore (that was airplane reading - I have 'The Complete Sherlock Holmes on the Nook too, but not sure when I’ll get around to that) and ‘Water for Elephants’ and I’m now reading ‘No Two Alike’ by the aforementioned Judith Rich Harris. Waiting in the wings are ‘A Discovery of Witches’ and ‘The Bricklayer’. I finished ‘The Solitude of Prime Numbers’ by Paolo Giordano and ‘The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time’ by mark Haddon.
As far as what have I enjoyed the most… I would have to say that The Sherlockian would make a great movie, but it was just a fun read. Prime Numbers was strange. The Incident of the Dog – about a kid with Asperger’s, but considerably more hampered than Aspie girl – was kind of depressing. I find the tone in No Two Alike slightly annoying (sorry JRH fans) but I’m trying to get through it anyway.
Back to work…</p>

<p>I liked the curious-dog-thing book. It sold well maybe just because the cover was cute.
It was interesting to know how things are in England.
Gmom
Judith Harris: her tone is always like that but try “Nurture Assumption” as well.</p>

<p>Im currently reading When We Get There, but Im not paying enough attention. I think it is a good book, but unfortunately I got an iphone, and a work dead line, so Im kind of distracted.</p>

<p>[Amazon.com:</a> When We Get There: A Novel (9781596913509): Shauna Seliy: Books](<a href=“http://www.amazon.com/When-We-Get-There-Novel/dp/1596913509]Amazon.com:”>http://www.amazon.com/When-We-Get-There-Novel/dp/1596913509)</p>

<p>Gmom- how was Prime number one? I think I might suggest it for book group.</p>

<p>Speaking of Aspies, I am about to read Look Me in the Eye, for book group.</p>

<p>Got a few books on Buddhism from the library last night as well as Sick Puppy by Carl Hiassen (on bears recommendation). Brought one of the small Buddhism books to work to read because Sick Puppy won’t fit in my 2-tiered lunch box (food in the bottom compartment, book on the top). Just finished Shameless by Judy Collins (yep, the singer). Was OK, but IMHO she should stick to singing. Also reading Undocumented, a book with illegal immigrant stories, a McSweeney publication. There’s a book fair coming up at UCF in Orlando, and will probably go, because I’ll miss the big LitFest in Chicago this year. That’s the best book fair EVER. They close off several blocks of downtown and sellers set up stands, used and new books, authors there to sign when you buy, so great! I doubt this one will have the same ambience, but it’s worth a look!</p>

<p>Ah… Look Me in the Eye was a great book. That author was ‘higher functioning’ than the character in Curious Incident in the Night. My aspie girl has issues with looking people in the eye and it’s funny because its something you don’t notice when you’re talking to someone in a normal conversation unless they’re NOT looking at you. Poor aspie girl here’s ‘look at me’ so much. She had a meltdown last night when she and manga girl got into a spat over aspie girl’s back up computer which manga girl thinks is ‘her’ computer. So silly. They are so different those three kids of mine. I’m trying to find some comfort in ‘No Two Alike’.<br>
The Solitude of Prime Numbers was a good book. I didn’t like the ending though – but I won’t give it away. It would make an excellent book club read – there’d be a lot to discuss.</p>

<p>I took out from the library because he is the older brother of Augusten Burroghs then didn’t get to it, had to return because someone was waiting.
now I want to know more about asperger’s, I’ll try again.
I thought people must have asked about Augusten’s brother alot, might have brought this book deal.
Gmom
you might have publishing empire in your offsprings. drawback of this is, they’d write about you. or you can write about yourself, yay yay</p>

<p>Typos typos… hear not here</p>

<p>If you are interested in a more personal perspective of asperger’s syndrome, try “Freaks, Geeks and Asperger Syndrome: A User Guide to Adolescence” by Luke Jackson. It was great.
When Aspie girl was diagnosed, this was all so much to take in. I bought this picture book called “All Cats Have Asperger’s Syndrome” by Kathy Hoopmann. Aspie girl was 13 when she was diagnosed, but she was in heavy denial. In an attempt to engage her in a discussion of her ‘issues’ and how we could help her, we all (family, friends of the family, grandma, aunts, cousins) used different colored markers to sign our names on those pages that we thought applied to us. So for instance there was a page with a picture of a cat/kitten and it said something like people with aspergers have interesting tastes in fashion – and that certainly applies to my husband. Another quote is "“Sometimes his relatives think they could bring him up better than his parents can” which I think applies to what my relatives think about me and ALL my children. hehe. </p>

<p>Just yesterday my sister told me that what I need to do with D1 is put up a door with a lock to the basement and lock her out of the upstairs living quarters. Our basement is a mother in law set up with a kitchen and family room there, so she could cook for herself and fend for herself and basically ‘force’ her to be independent. My sister has a good heart, but she just doesn’t see things from our perspective. I’m battling with DH about confronting D1 about her ‘plan’ or lack thereof. My view is that in the Fall we gave her the keys to the car of her life and climbed into the back seat. Before the Fall we were in the passenger seat with a hand on the wheel… steering… a lot. Anyway, in December she drove her car into a ditch. It’s not a big ditch. Much worse things could have happened. But she needs to figure out for herself how to get out of the ditch and her Dad and I need to stay in the back seat. He just has a hard time with this concept. Right now she’s spinning the wheels pretty hard and going nowhere… but I have faith that she will figure it out. I digress…</p>

<p>Back to the cat book – Aspie girl refused to have anything to do with the whole process. She has the book with all of our names scribbled all over the pages in bright colors… everybody has a touch of aspieness, I think… but she never has really embraced her aspieness the way other people with Asperger’s have. D1 has never embraced her ADHD either - -and we spent a fortune sending her to Manhattan to get ‘meta-cognitive therapy’ that was supposed to teach her how to deal proactively with her ADHD. She did get a bit more organized for a while with her assignments… but she seems to need a refresher course these days. </p>

<p>Gotta get back to work…</p>