<p>@Alexandre do you know when this policy will be fully implemented? i honestly believe it is worth applying to michigan anyways(as well as NYU) because of the prowess of the programs because miracle FA awards do happen</p>
<p>NYU clearly states on their website that they do NOT meet full financial need.</p>
<p>With all due respect, Alexandre, Michigan’s own CDS reports make it clear that they do not meet full financial need. It just doesn’t make sense to me to apply to a school that does not meet full need if need is a significant consideration in the selection process.</p>
<p>OP: Your original question was about adding “one” more application. With the addition of NYU, now you are up to three… While you have great test scores, your GPA is only so-so for these schools. The chances of earning merit money is low. </p>
<p>But as the Great One used to say, ‘you miss every shot that you don’t take…’ Good luck.</p>
<p>closetohome, Michigan will not be in a position to significantly alter its approach to FA for OOS students anytime soon. I would estimate 2017 or 2018.</p>
<p>@bluebayou i understand that, NYU was already going to be on my list most likely because i have the option to commute and then maybe dorm after a year or 2…only live 30 minutes outside the city. </p>
<p>@Alexandre i will take that into consideration before making a final decision.</p>
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<p>You don’t know this to be true. According to Michigan’s most recent common data set, they meet on average 83% of need. We know their policy is to meet full need for in-state students, but since sticker COA is much lower for in-state students, and since in-state students represent only about 65% of the undergraduate student body, an awful lot of that FA must be going to OOS students as well. Given those figures, it seems likely that some OOS students with need are having their full need met, while others are being “gapped.”</p>
<p>Contrast that with NYU where almost everyone with need gets gapped. According to NYU’s most recent CDS, only 495 students had their full need met in 2012-13, out of 11,515 who were determined to have financial need; and NYU on average met only 54.6% of need. And that’s with a higher COA at NYU–estimated at $64,047 for the Fall of 2013, compared to $53,490 for OOS at Michigan.</p>
<p>Agreed, though, that as among the 3, the OP is likeliest to have full need met at Boston College. But it’s worth taking a shot at Michigan to see what they offer.</p>
<p>Both are very elite academic schools, but are located in very different locations. You should visit to see if you like the smaller elite private school in a major metropolitan area of the large elite public school in a smaller town. </p>
<p>Also, if all things are equal, you should see which one will cost less at the end of the day. Assuming you are OOS, cost is going to be high for either.</p>
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<p>Sorry, BC, but your analysis for Michigan is inconsistent with the same discussion of NYU. In the first par, you discuss dollars, but in the second, you discuss matriculants.</p>
<p>Michigan clearly meets 83% of need, as you note; but those are bodies, not dollars. But since it is 100% of need of instaters, by definition the met-need of OOS’ers has to be much, much lower than 83% (unless nearly all instaters are full pay, which is not likely). </p>
<p>Yes, you are correct, in that I don’t know for certain that the OP would not receive his/her full need in Ann Arbor. But the published statistics are against it. And if the OP is just looking for “one” more app, it seems silly (to me) to waste it on a school that clearly does not meet full need.</p>
<p>I know several people that were accepted to UMich and then could not afford to attend due to the unfortunate financial aid offering… BC I think is known to have a better reputation in this regard and I do several people with much lower stats than you who were accepted. For these reasons, I would conclude BC because I would be shocked if you weren’t accepted and for FA reasons. But you really can’t go wrong with either.</p>
<p>BC may have a better reputation, but I don’t think they are as helpful in terms of financial aid. Still Michigan is going to be VERY expensive for OOS students.</p>
<p>very helpful opinions, and for the people wondering why i am talking about such drastically different schools, well it’s because i live in long island, and i love new york so i am totally fine applying to schools such as fordham macauly and nyu but i also would like to have the “big campus experience” which is why schools on my list are so different, it’s because i can adjust to any enviornment really…i just need to know what is best for me. I know i made it seem this way but its not just one more app…i love both these programs and would be happy at both given the opportunity to attend, i just don’t want to be sending out more than 10-12 apps because i feel that may be going overboard.</p>
<p>does anyone know of any schools in/close to the northeast that give great merit and/or financial aid that isnt already on my list that i had posted in the original post. i would just like to weigh my options</p>
<p>Case Western Reserve University</p>
<p>Go with BC, they give great aid, Michigan isn’t going to give you much.</p>
<p>I’ve decided to go with BC :)</p>
<p>Hello closetohome, I was accepted to BC for fall 2013 and they met 100% of my need. I didn’t apply to Michigan because I knew that their FA was not the best OOS. Unfortunately, I will not attend BC in the fall (WashU instead), but it was a great second option for me. I’m glad that you decided to apply to BC… you have a good chance of being accepted (apply EA if you can). Best of luck to you!</p>
<p>The thing is Michigan’s OOS cost is about 10k less than BC’s. So, for example, if your parents earned 150k a year, BC would give likely you about 10k in need based aid, so the cost would end up being about the same. I’m also not sure if BC hands out that many academic scholarships…</p>
<p>Idk about BC but Michigan has not limit to the amount of AP credit you can claim so it’s easy to graduate early or do part time senior year and save 20k+. </p>
<p>BC has a slightly better rep than Michigan in the northeast but in other parts of the nation and world, Michigan has a stronger rep. Many departments are ranked higher and the alumni base is huge and spread out.</p>
<p>“BC has a slightly better rep than Michigan in the northeast but in other parts of the nation and world, Michigan has a stronger rep. Many departments are ranked higher and the alumni base is huge and spread out.”</p>
<p>I agree with this statement, but I would say that in NYC and surrounding areas, Michigan has a better rep than BC.</p>