<p>I always try to remine those downloading things illegal the consequences… there also are websites I hear students visit to watch movies that are still in theaters. I’m surprise those websites haven’t been cleared out, which I though was more illegal than most… since we are talking about unrelease movies being watch freely… so now I’m thinking maybe these websites have already been reviewed and okay?</p>
<p>So, it is OK to steal from someone who is rich. I find that most interesting for someone using the username HisGraceFillsMe. </p>
<p>Before the internet, if you wanted to listen to something, you went out and bought it. Yes, that is what I’m saying. It is still the correct thing to do. I use Napster. For $5 bucks a month, I can listen to whatever I want and still get five free downloads. For downloads beyond that, I buy them.</p>
<p>I’m sorry you interpret my having morals as being all high and mighty.</p>
<p>websites streaming current releases usually fold pretty quickly. it’s all about knowing where to look. they’re definitely not legal.</p>
<p>“In the old days, if you wanted to listen to something, you went out and bought it.”</p>
<p>you dang kids get off my lawn!!!</p>
<p>Yes, pick on my personal character. That accomplishes a lot.</p>
<p>I never said it was okay. All I said was that I have a hard time having any sympathy for them when people start whining about how horrible it is to “steal” (I agree with the others who say it’s not stealing, but copyright infringement) from recording artists. Maybe if someone was downloading unreleased albums I would agree. </p>
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<p>Maybe they did, but in case you haven’t noticed, this isn’t “the old days” anymore. Get over it. If you don’t like downloading, don’t do it. But the fact of the matter is, until they get rid of all the P2P software (won’t happen) and shut down all the networks (never happen), people are going to download music illegally. Again, not that it makes it okay, it’s just the fact of the matter.</p>
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Actually I was just informed by a sibling that some of the websites that I was speaking about above have been cleared ( after over 3 years existing) such as movie6.net.</p>
<p>^Yup, movie6 is being closed down. And if I recall, that’s one of the biggest ones.</p>
<p>I will not argue that P2P is not going away. That is obviously not the case. You taking advantage of that is wrong. You are trying to justify your actions by blaming someone or something else. Maybe you’ll learn one day.</p>
<p>Having sympathy for the artists is irrelevant. They earn money from their work. You took it online without paying for it. They don’t earn money for their work. You are trying to justify it again by calling it “copyright infringement.” It still doesn’t change the end result. You are taking money from them.</p>
<p>^Um, no. I don’t download. Ever. I don’t see the point.</p>
<p>Are you seriously telling me that you’ve never burned or received a burned CD? How about listening to the radio? That’s a free service, as the radio station makes most of its money off of advertising, right? </p>
<p>The fact is the artists don’t notice the difference from one paycheck to the next. They could care less that people are “stealing” their music. They might have to wait a month to take their next trip to the Bahamas or buy their next plane. Big effing woop. When they start actually doing good with their money, then I’ll care. Until then–no dice. I couldn’t care less about them losing their money that they only spend on themselves.</p>
<p>And before you go there–if someone were stealing from me, yes, I’d be upset. But I also know that God provides me with everything I need, and everything else I can do without.</p>
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<p>You have the most interesting set of morals. </p>
<p>Since you are curious, yes I have burned a CD. I burn music which I paid for onto a CD to play in the car. Yes, I have listened to the radio. The radio stations strike their own deal to play the music. In order to pay for that right and for airtime, they do advertise. How is that wrong exactly?</p>
<p>^I don’t think it is. You just seem to think that the only way it’s okay to listen to music is if you personally have bought the CD.</p>
<p>I always think that once someone puts their music on a CD, it doesn’t belong to them anymore. It belongs to the world. Are re-creations of the Mona Lisa copyright infringement? No, because everyone knows it’s a re-creation. No one things that by burning a CD, you’re trying to be as good as the real artist, or in any way undermining their hard work. You’re simply trying to allow as many people as possible to enjoy their work–people who possibly can’t afford to spend $20 on a CD that in reality shouldn’t cost more than maybe $5 or $10.</p>
<p>What do they mean by sharing the music? I’m not really into the torrent thing. So, if the 30 songs he downloaded were only used for his personal enjoyment, do you think they would have gone after him? Didn’t the other lady who was caught selling or sharing them online too?</p>
<p>He should have been fined $30. Punishment should fit the crime.</p>
<p>Yea, I have the same question as coollege. What if he just downloaded it from a site, like jamglue, for just himself?</p>
<p>I don’t understand why people use Limewire; don’t people get a lot of viruses from it?</p>
<p>The Mona Lisa is not copyrighted…</p>
<p>“I don’t understand why people use Limewire; don’t people get a lot of viruses from it?”</p>
<p>Yep. Potentially.</p>
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<p>Of course, that would be the reasonable thing to do. But no, the RIAA is using scare tactics in an attempt to prevent more people from downloading.</p>
<p>Personally, I just torrent and then stop sharing after I download. Limewire sucks. And sorry if I don’t feel like having DRM encoded music from iTunes.</p>
<p>lol, these always get settled out of court afterward for far smaller amounts of money. it’s all one big show.</p>
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<p>It’s quite difficult to interpret them differently. Your holier-than-thou attitude regarding downloading music is utterly laughable. The bottom line is that yes, it is by definition stealing, but so freakin what? I love the argument that it’s the same as walking into a store and stealing a CD; it’s not. It’s also most likely not hurting the artist financially. If it is, they’re either very famous, and thus not getting a few million dollars wont exactly cripple them, or they’re signed by a major label, and all the money goes to the label or A&R anyway. Artists dont make jack from selling CDs anyway.</p>
<p>I’m sure you always drive the speed limit, don’t you…</p>
<p>It must be really awkward at a school like UT, where thousands upon thousands of your fellow classmates download music every day.</p>
<p>In regards to this case, well, I’m certainly glad I left BU now.</p>
<p>$30 is not proper compensation. Who is to say that each song is worth $1? There is plenty of big name mainstream music (e.g. The Beatles for the longest time) that are not on popular 99 cent music download websites (e.g. iTunes).</p>