Brandeis or Indiana?

<p>I’ve just been admitted into Kelley School of Business, IUB,
but I got no financial aid.</p>

<p>I heard Brandeis is generous in financial aid…wondering if it would be worthy to give up Kelley and transfer to Brandeis? (assume i could get financial aid from Brandeis)</p>

<p>Kelley
Adv. well respected undergrad biz program
Disadv. expensive (i have to prepare $40k for every year)</p>

<p>Brandeis
Adv. boston area location, good for job hunting? (not really sure about these)
neighboring many other famous universities?
easier to afford (if financial aid will be granted)
Disadv. less competitive biz program</p>

<p>Anyone plz help me out of my confusion? Thanks!</p>

<p>I think it’s a big assumption that you will be able to transfer into Brandeis and get merit aid.
Yours is the first case I’ve heard of someone looking to leave a large state university to <em>save</em> money!</p>

<p>What sort of stats do you have that would indicate that Brandeis would give you merit aid?
Have you applied for merit aid elsewhere?</p>

<p>I think eldalin clearly states that he thinks Brandess will more financial aid not merit aid.</p>

<p>thanks, soze and dibbasatya</p>

<p>lol yea i should’ve explained that i am an international student. IU (and so do most other universities in the States) offers no aid - nothing - to international transfer student (just transferred from abroad last sem) … and i noticed they (ex. Emory, U Mich and NYU) even discourage international students to apply if they have no money in their pockets… so i was really happy to see Brandeis welcomes me to apply regardless of my financial situation…</p>

<p>Of course what matters to me most is what i eventually will get out of my education.
So I am here to learn from you guys who know Brandeis much more than I do:
1.Is Brandeis’ location very helpful for job hunting? (or compared to IU)
2.What do you think about Brandeis’ business / econ majors? and compared to Kelley?</p>

<p>any help is appreciated!</p>

<p>eladalin, the two schools are extremely diferent. To begin with Indiana Bloomington is a very large state-run university, with 40,000 undergraduate students located nowhere near a major city. In contrast, Brandeis, a private school, combines a nurturing, small liberal arts college and world-class research university-with the smallest student body I believe (less than 800 in a class) of any top tier national research university. And that small student body is matched with high-powered professors who actually teach in small classes (this week’s Newsweek article featuring a Brandeis professor, William Flesch as an example of a great professor who can positively change the lives of undergrads is one example). As you can imagine, given this size advantage, the research opportunities are tremendous. Plus it’s very close to Boston, which is the world’s best college town, but on its own suburban campus.</p>

<p>Indiana is a fine university. But, as I’ve mentioned to others on CC, for undergraduate students, Brandeis is truly amazing. Its intellectual environment is comparable in many ways to its University Athletic Association sister school, U Chicago (perhaps no coincidence that the President of U Chicago is a Brandeis alum). Yet its students are down-to-earth, friendly and non-competitive with one another. FYI in a recent Forbes national college rankings survey, Brandeis was ranked among the top 15 research universities and 30th overall among all private univerities and LAC’s–a testament to its focus on undergraduate education. Larger schools, including some Ivies, were ranked much lower. </p>

<p>Despite its small size and relative youth, Brandeis’ alumni are very distinguished–to name just a few: Nobel Prize winner for chemistry Rod Mackinnon, Fields Medal winning physicist Edward Witten (often called “Einstein’s successor”), 3-time Pulitzer Prize winner Tom Friedman of the NY Times, The Earth is Flat etc; Mitch Albom of Tuesday’s with Morrie (about his Brandeis professor), the Creators/Producers of Friends; actress Debra Messing; Robert FX Sillerman (billionaire businessman–currently owner of American Idol and Graceland) and Christy Hefner, former CEO of Playboy). Also, if you’re into social justice or theater/music/art, it’s a very exciting place to be.</p>

<p>Further, the school is very diverse undergraduate and graduate, with a strong international flavor (in fact the majority of its International Business School is international students).</p>

<p>With respect to undergraduate business majors, it is inaccurate to say the Brandeis program is less competitive than Indiana’s simply because the Brandeis major is brand new as of this coming year. Although Indiana’s program is well established, the Brandeis program is innovative. It’s being launched in conjunction with the highly-regarded Brandeis graduate International Business School and the excelentBr andeis undergrad Economics department. The international focus of the grad business school–incredibly appropriate for the international economy in which we live–undoubtedly will add international flavor to the new undergrad Business major as well. One key point is that, unlike Indian’s program, the Brandeis undergrad Business major will have a liberal arts focus . Here’s a link to an article discussing it:</p>

<p>[Brandeis</a> Business is practical, unique - Op-Ed](<a href=“http://media.www.thejusticeonline.com/media/storage/paper573/news/2009/03/03/OpEd/Brandeis.Business.Is.Practical.Unique-3656072.shtml]Brandeis”>http://media.www.thejusticeonline.com/media/storage/paper573/news/2009/03/03/OpEd/Brandeis.Business.Is.Practical.Unique-3656072.shtml)</p>

<p>Good luck with your decision!</p>

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<p>The head of the Chicago math department is also a Brandeis alum ([Paul</a> Sally - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Sally]Paul”>Paul Sally - Wikipedia)). Reviewing many academic texts, you will find that the name Brandeis is ubiquitous and possesses quite a name in the academic world. (This from someone who has no relation to Brandeis.)</p>

<p>hey i’m also an international student who is transferring to Brandeis this year, also with fin aid. I’ve got many friends who have transferred from IU Bloomington to my current school, or who have declined IU to attend my current school. From what I’ve heard about IU, I think:

  • IU Kelley is not close to Brandeis IBS, in terms of job placements, education, etc.
  • In terms of other majors, Brandeis is also far better. Its class sizes are way smaller, 30 vs. 200 at IU, and its professors should be much more respected as they have more publications, research, give more talks, etc. Brandeis is simply more prestigious than IU. Done.
    So try as best as you can to transfer. G’luck.</p>

<p>@fallorchild: Are you out of your freaking mind???</p>

<p>@dibbasatya:
That’s not a productive response. If you don’t agree with the poster, then please give a meaningful rebuttal and present an alternative point-of-view.</p>

<p>I love the smaller schools however, I have a D that goes to a small engineering school called Rose Hulman and now the importantance of the small schools and what they have to offer.</p>

<p>I would have to disagree with some of the above statements about Kelley. Class sizes are small in the business classes at IU. My son is goin there and his class sizes for his Freshman year are 28 to 35 for 4 of his business classes. His math class is 40 students. Not bad.</p>