Brown Full Pay or Tulane Full Ride with Stamps Scholarship?

OP Is there a minimum GPA your daughter has to maintain for the scholarship?

This hardly seems like a thorough and well executed study of stressful colleges. And stressful does not equal suicidal. If you read the description, they say the school is highly selective and with a low student to teacher ratio the professors know if you're putting in the effort to get ahead. That's stressful?

This site also has App State listed as one of the top 10 most beautiful colleges in the U.S. Say what? And they have a list of the best schools to survive a breakup and the best schools for ice cream lovers. All utterly and completely subjective and probably based off the 10 schools the list writer has friends attending.

Thanks all again for your continued thoughts and impressions.

@Emsmom1 there is a min. GPA, but I think it is pretty achievable, like 3.0. I recall looking, but don’t recall the GPA exactly. I do recall that it didn’t seem unreasonable.

Consensus seems to be that value of Stamps opportunity is difficult to pass up, which was my general inclination.

Great weekend to all and thanks again!

I went to the link in #18 … the article is pure click bait.

@jsnowit – I think Stamps at Tulane, hands down.

Please do NOT buy into the idea that all money problems will be solved because of how well doctors get paid. Between the direct and collateral costs medical school and the very low pay during residency, by the time that doctors do get to start to reap the benefits of their education, most have a lot of catching up to do compared to peers who entered the workforce immediately after undergrad-- especially given the loan debt they usually have incurred along the way. Plus there is a big gender pay gap between female & male physicians-- women physicians earn only 74% of what males make.

So save that money for medical school.

At the outset of the 2017-18 school year, Tulane was ranked as having just about the happiest student body in the country: https://www.whereyat.com/tulane-university-named-fourth-for-happiest

Thank you @dumbo11 for this very helpful info. My son just received the Stamps at UMiami and is evaluating his options. Tried to PM you but I just joined and it won’t let me. Would love to talk to you and get your input about your daughter’s experience. Could you try and PM me on your end? Thanks!

Sorry, but the poster who believes Tulane causes students to end their lives is truly ridiculous. The most stressful campus environment (students study the most) according to Princeton Review does not feature Tulane, but does put Brown in 20th place. Tulane makes the list in 9th place for best quality of life, and Brown isn’t on the list. Tulane also appears in the lists for happiest students, love their college, and most engaged in community service. Brown appears on the list for loving their college too. Both are great schools and do not cause kids to harm themselves. I will say though that partying is huge at Tulane and if that is of concern, it’s something to think about. As the PR rankings are student based, I trust that students have a good idea of what their college is like.

From what I’ve read on CC, Brown is great for pre-med— in fact, I think there is a thread titled “Brown is best for pre-med.” Maybe something to do with the grade inflation?

My family visited Tulane last spring, and the campus and students we met were fantastic. We spent 4 hours on campus and I talked to students across the campus and I was very impressed by everything I saw. My daughter got into Tulane and if she had received the Stamps, it would be over for her because she loved the school, atmosphere, and resources provided on campus. I would say that if the ~300K costs over 4 years doesn’t scare you, then Brown is an option, but Tulane looks to be a world class option with no costs attached from my own point of view. If your child hasn’t visited the campus, it may be worth it to see the campus up close. Good luck and please let the CC family know your child’s final decision.

@Sunny25, congrats! I sent you a pm with my email and cell.

Thanks all for the additional comments and observations. All very helpful. We vised Tulane for honors weekend ths spring and were both very positively impressed by the campus, the school and the many students we were able to meet and speak with.

We’ll start looking at options seriously this week.

Thanks again!

@dumbo11 My daughter would like to take you pu on your offer of putting her in touch with your daughter to obtain information to help her with her decisions. I was unable to figure out how to PM you, so maybe you could PM me. Thanks!

@jsnowut : I have jokingly told those Brown waitlisted folks if they encourage people like your daughter to go somewhere else, more slots would be available to them. :smiley:

I guess you have not read https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2015/02/12/several-students-commit-suicide-tulane-appalachian-state , according to the article, " In 2013, Tulane received a federal three-year, $300,000 grant to hire a “campus coordinator for suicide prevention training programs” and to increase outreach to students. " It looks like the suicide cluster happened before the grant ran out. And if there was no suicide problem before 2013, why is that Fed need to waste $300,000? I am sure you don’t know just last month another one passed away. (https://tulanehullabaloo.com/38651/news/student-death/)

I am not here to scare you away from Tulane. The last time I posted outside Brown threads was to tell a mother, who tried to force her daughter to go the Cornell, to read some articles. It is your money. Investing involves risks. You could invest in your child or invest in financial market. Now it looks to me that investing in financial market is a much bigger risk than investing in your child.

Lastly, if you read a recent post regarding Brown v.s. Chicago (http://talk.qa.collegeconfidential.com/discussion/comment/21399949/#Comment_21399949), you might get a better idea. We are in STEM. My understanding is that Tulane’s academics is as tough as Chicago. I wish your daughter the best no matter what your daughter’s decision is and I hope it is not your decision.

@nrtlax33, Certainly I do not want this thread to deviate from the guidance the OP was seeking and from the overall purpose of CC. However, I think I would be remiss if I did not point out that, even if what you are saying has a basis in fact, in context, etc, we are talking over 5 years ago (2013) and, thankfully, an extremely small number of isolated incidents. In contrast, the data on student happiness, quality of life, etc. at Tulane is much more recent and sustained over time. That being said, my heart goes out to the families of the affected students and I certainly have no intention of minimizing their unspeakable pain.

@jsnowut : I can see your daughter or you are interested in some sort of STEM. People who succeed at premed track are those who have a passion to save life, not earning money. Money is just a side effect. A lot of people cannot even pass much easier engineering weed-out. The Brown v.s. Chicago example I put on #33 is just to let you know that if your child indeed came to Brown and unfortunately failed premed weed-out, your daughter could be confident that she would probably not qualify for premed at most other places. For STEM kids, burnout is another serious problem. To tell you an example, just last week, someone came for an interview (under a circumstance I wouldn’t specify), the person was referred by an organic chem professor. During the interview, we realized that the person was totally burned out by the weed-out process and ended up with a biochem degree. Obviously the person did well at the most brutal weed-out course – organic chem. Otherwise the organic chem professor won’t have referred the person. My point is that even if your daughter did qualify for pre-med, she might not want to do it. It is a long journey. My child loves interactions with patients and hate “research” so MD/PhD is out of question. Do you have an understand of what your child really wants to do? I think your child will be under stress if she indeed came to Brown. If she failed pre-med, your money is lost. That is tremendous pressure. Based on this, she better goes to Tulane. As long as she is well, you have nothing to lose.

Thanks again to all that posted responses.

My original question was, given my background, was there something about an undergraduate education at Brown U. that would outweigh the benefits of an undergraduate education at Tulane with the advantages of the Stamps scholarship [i.e. these types of doors are open for Brown grads but are rarely if ever open for Tulane grads, etc.].

I understand that the institutions are not the same and that there are many many things to consider if you are lucky enough to have choices between colleges. We will certainly do our best to weigh those carefully.

So far it doesn’t seem that anyone participating in this discussion has offered an explanation of how the education or experience one can obtain at Brown U. would outweigh the education and experience that can be obtained at Tulane when coupled with the advantages of the Stamps scholarship.

I appreciate this feedback and we will weigh it carefully in our upcoming decision.

Thanks again - Cheers!

@jsnowut : For the benefits of future applicants, could you share your daughter’s academic stats (GPA, SAT/ACT, SAT II, APs) so people could get a better idea of which school might be a better fit academically? Thanks.

Tulane with Stamps, hands down. Save your money for med school.

@nrtlax33, I think we can assume that the OP’s daughter’s stats are very high, given the opportunities she has been offered.