<p>I just got admitted to Chapel Hill today, and applied RD to Brown. I'm indecisive at the moment. I visited and loved both schools, but Chapel Hill seems to be a smarter choice -money wise (in-state) and traveling could be a pain. I'm also not sure how much FA I could get as a student coming from an upper middle class family. What are pros/cons to each? I just need to think it through...</p>
<p>Need more information. Your grades, class rank, stats and other factors. Brown is a very good school. Its an Ivy, but its not for everyone. Its exceedingly liberal and very unstructured. Is that your personality? </p>
<p>Wait until Brown notifies you and decide then. UNC is hard to get into, but its not that hard once you are there. Its very big. Is that what you want? Sports is king at UNC. Brown, not so much, except Hockey. </p>
<p>UNC is fairly liberal as well. Where else did you apply?</p>
<p>I had a 3.7 but my grades suffered this year with a single C in honors precalc. I’m a national achievement semifinalist/ap scholar, In the top 10% of my class, and got a 1940 sat/28 act score. 5 in APUSH/AP psych, 4 on the ap english lang exam, and im taking four APs this year…
really, finances are the biggest factor. also, Brown had 30,000 applicants this year. The open curriculum might not be the best thing for me…but, I think I’ll wait.</p>
<p>Also applied to Kenyon college, william and mary, bowdoin.</p>
<p>The so called “liberalism” of Brown is greatly overrated. Columbia and Cornell are much more liberal (almost of Berkeley and Madison proportion…)</p>
<p>yos, by the schools you are considering, I do not know how u like Chapel Hill…</p>
<p>Based on your stats and Brown’s likely 5-6% RD acceptance rate this year, this is a pointless question.</p>
<p>UNC-Chapel Hill
PROS
Beautiful campus, great location, big-time sports, weather, nice college town
CONS
Large class sizes for many freshman classes </p>
<p>Don’t know too much about Brown, so I can’t speak for them.</p>
<p>UNC makes the most sense unless your parents are wealthy(or poor) . Compare packages with other schools. UNC, UVa, etc. are wonderful choices for instate students. Sometimes, high achieving instate kids don’t appreciate them as much as they probably should.</p>
<p>I think that Brown admission is unlikely. Your SAT is not high enough. Sorry. You are lucky to get into UNC. I know people who got deferred with stats like yours, in-state.</p>
<p>As for Kenyon and Bowdoin, I don’t know what they will do. So hold onto them as well. </p>
<p>An LAC is a totally different experience from a large state school. So is an Ivy. While UNC is a prestigious school, it is dealing with a massive state budget deficit and cut backs in programs. Some people thrive in that environment and others would do better in an LAC or smaller school. Its really up to you, your personality, your ambitions and objectives, money, whether you want to go out of state or not.</p>
<p>UNC is going to be a lot like a higher version of high school because you will see a lot of the same people all the time. Not knocking it, just a statement of fact. Some people love the big sports environment and some people could care less about that and go elsewhere. </p>
<p>Don’t do a thing until you hear from other schools. Take your time to think it through and maybe visit the schools which accept you. </p>
<p>UNC is a great value. But it also means that when hunting for a job after graduation you will have a lot of fellow UNC students competing with you. To some employers, going to a different school, like say, Kenyon will catch their attention, call you in for an interview and it goes from there. </p>
<p>I do have a bias towards private LAC’s and such. I am not you and you are not me. You should do what is in YOUR best interests and where you think you will thrive the best.</p>
<p>Some ppl need to take life one step at a time. It’s day dreaming like this that cause misery. Sure basking in the sunlight in a hypothetical Brown. vs UNC-CH is fun, but it’s really risky and really dangerous.</p>
<p>Take life as it comes to you, don’t get too far ahead of yourself. U think too much ahead of yourself, it is not good.</p>
<p>I don’t claim to know everything, but I sure know how to avoid misery :-)</p>
<p>Phead128 made an excellent point. I don’t even know why you are considering this now; Brown is almost impossible for anyone to get into (unless you have the fame of Emma Watson). You are making it sound like you got accepted to both. Wait until April, then make a decision. While you are waiting though, explore UNC and research it more so that when April decisions roll around, you will not have to waste time researching UNC in detail. Take life one day at a time. Good luck with your decisions :)</p>
<p>Well, thanks guys.
I’m really not expecting to get in; I’m just thinking. Chapel Hill is close to home and has a good photojournalism program…so I think I’m good there. I’ll wait until April.
And as for low stats…I guess it’s a good thing I have a challenging transcript/good essay writing skills…</p>
<p>choklitrain… I’m afraid you’re probably right… not to discourage OP, but odds are about 1% (or less) for acceptance at Brown given those stats… the 1% is in the case that OP has an extremely compelling story of overcoming daunting life hurdles… Even then, adcoms are really wary of accepting students who <em>academically</em> below most others and sufficiently so that they might be “at-risk” in terms of GPA. 250 SAT points below Brown’s 25/75 average is not trivial, nor is a C in Honors Precaculus… Don’t forget Brown turns away hundreds of applicants with 2300 and 4.0.</p>
<p>Although I agree that Brown is a reach for Yos, a 28 ACt score is not atypical at Brown. Over 20% of Brown students scored 28 or less on the ACT and another 40% scored 29-32 on the ACT. According to Brown’s website, 7.7% of applicants with ACT scores of 26-28 were admitted, which is not significantlyl ower than the 8.2 accptance rate for applicants with ACT scores in the 29-32 range and even not that much lower than the acceptance rate for applicants with ACT scores in the 33-35 range.</p>
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<p>Alexandre – it’s not the ACT score in isolation that is the issue – the issue is that the 28 is consistent with the C in honors precaculous… a consistent picture has been painted. It is quite probably that the 28 ACT scorers admitted at Brown were great classroom students and problematic standardized test scorers. You cannot be at 25% in both… that is surely predictive of a struggle in the classroom at Elite U.</p>
<p>I merely wanted an honest pro/con list. I know that I’m unlikely to get into Brown, but as an URM with a really interesting background I think I can pull my own…regardless, from my understanding Brown’s admissions process is HOLISTIC, and as such, numbers should not be the only consideration.
I know there are many qualified and talented students out there competing for those 2500 spots…
Thanks :]</p>
<p>yos – getting in is not the problem… it’s the four year expeience of clawing and scratching to keep up with students either better prepared or with faster CPUs than you possess. You will have to compete in the classroom against a majority of students who are <em>academically</em> more qualified, and therefore likely, given similar effort, to grab all the As and Bs, leaving Cs and Ds for less qualified students putting in the same effort. Why would you want to put yourself in an overmatched position? Are you a masochist?</p>
<p>Really?
Trust me, my math prowess has nothing to do with my overall intelligence. I’m sure I have the ability and work ethic to keep up with people who possess “faster CPUs” as you put it.</p>
<p>OK… good luck.</p>