Brown vs Duke vs Northwestern vs Duke vs U of Penn vs Columbia

<p>Brown vs Duke vs Northwestern vs Duke vs U of Penn vs Columbia</p>

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<p>Which of the above university is most/least generous in giving financial aid to** international students**. I know that they're need aware, but please arrange them in % of int'l students awarded aid.
PS: I need 100% aid and am international. My SAT score is 2340. Subject tests are Math II-800, Chemistry-780, Physics-770( Damn me)</p>

<p>PPS: I have safeties too!
Thx! :)</p>

<p>None of the schools you mentioned are need blind to international students. Your ability to pay will be a factor in the admissions process.</p>

<p>None of us are soothsayers. Apply and see what kind of aid you get. Remember that these schools DO require a student contribution…that could be several thousand dollars.</p>

<p>I already knew what you said, sybbie719. I have stated the same in my original post too.
thumper1: I know that none of us is a soothsayer. I didn’t imply that, and neither did I ask about student contribution. All I want to know is that are there any previous data available on CC. I scorched the net, but I couldn’t find it. I though any of you would know about the question I asked.
I restate my question: Which of the above university is most/least generous in giving financial aid to** international students**?
PS: Please answer the QUESTION!</p>

<p>Duke will meet full need of international students, provided you can be admitted. The admissions rate for intl is about 5%, but they will meet full need. I have no idea about the other schools.</p>

<p>You “scorched” the internet and didn’t find an answer because there isn’t an answer. I think they all promise to meet 100% of need if you are admitted. They probably all have their quirks about how they determine their packages – whether they include home equity in their calculations or not, for example. You could have five different students who get totally different packages from each school, where Columbia is more generous to one and Penn more generous to another and Brown the best for the third.</p>

<p>Why do you need to know? Do you plan to apply early decision? If not, then apply to them all and see what you get.</p>

<p>With your stats, you’d definitely find the most aid at Northwestern! Schools like Columbia and UPenn for example get more International Applicants and have thus less to give out.</p>

<p>The information you are looking for is actually part of the Common Data Set. Here’s what I found. All numbers are for the 2012-2013 school year.</p>

<p>Penn: 332 international students received a total of $14,245,353 in institutional aid
Duke: 134 student received $6,484,394
Brown: 201 students received $8,180,854
Northwestern: 34 students received $1,538,488</p>

<p>Columbia doesn’t seem to publish a Common Data Set and I couldn’t find separate financial aid figures for international students in the data that they do publish.</p>

<p>If you want the percentage of international students receiving aid, look up how many international students each one has (that information is readily available for most colleges) and do the algebra yourself.</p>

<p>Thx barium! Actually I have seen those numbers but I haven’t got the answer to many % of int’l who apply for aid get aid.
The answer is 5% for duke( as told by purpleacorn- Thanks!)</p>

<p>Oh, I see. With “percentage of internationals awarded aid”, you did not mean “what percentage of the enrolled students do receive aid?” but “what percentage of international financial aid applicants are admitted with aid?”</p>

<p>I’m afraid most colleges don’t publish that data. It’s rare enough to see the international admission rates reported separately from the domestic admission rates; I am aware of only a handful of instances in which a college went so far as to publish the international financial aid admission rate. (With good reason, probably. The data I do have suggests that many liberal arts colleges rely on international financial aid applicants to appear more selective when their domestic admission rate alone is actually pretty high.) </p>

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Careful. Purpleacorn claimed that the overall admission rate for international students is 5%, which combines both aid-seeking and full-pay applicants.</p>

<p>Ooooo. Thx b@r!um… Dunno why I couldn’t add special characters(@,! $ etc.) in my username when I was registering on college confidential…</p>

<p>Hey</p>

<p>I emailed Northwestern because I’m in a similar situation looking at similar schools and they said that the admit rate for internationals seeking aid is also around 5% - ouch.
I’d really be interested to see if anyone could get the figure for Brown!</p>

<p>You should apply to all the need blind school for international students- Harvard, princeton, yale, dartmouth, MIT, Amherst College. If you have good grades and with that SAT score you’ll definitely get accepted in at least one.</p>

<p>^^ that is not true. The schools listed above are reaches for everyone, international students in particular. No one can be sure they will “definitely” get in to any of these colleges.</p>

<p>Agreed! Choosing which one to apply ED to is such an arduous task! You find yourself side lining what school you really want to attend and start playing a game of statistics – especially for internationals. </p>

<p>DANNY007, where did you find out that Duke’s acceptance rate for internationals who apply for aid is 5%? </p>

<p>I am certain I read someone that Dartmouth’s ED Rate for Internationals was 8% (for 2012) but I cannot for the life of me find the link, I’ve searched everywhere.</p>

<p>@Katliamom I am an international student that got accepted to Amherst and I had lower stats than him, so I assume he would have very strong chances of acceptance there. With good essays and good EC’s he definitely can get into an Ivy League.</p>

<p>I’m sure you’re intelligent enough to understand statistical odds. They’re against all international student who need financial aid. That’s simply the reality (easily verifiable). The fact that you got in is irrelevant.</p>