Brown vs. Duke

<p>If there was no pun intended, then why did you put ‘biting’ in quotation marks?</p>

<p>I might add that it’s clear you were either terrible at debate or never on the team because you are terrible at making an argument, aside from whether anyone agrees with you on this forum.</p>

<p>wolfmanjack, are you serious? that was puerile</p>

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Per-student endowment only gets you so far. Brown is one of very few schools (and the only Ivy) not need-blind for transfers, as just one example. </p>

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Jonri,</p>

<p>That is patently untrue. Duke is fairly weak in the visual arts, but the performing arts are quite strong. Documentary studies and film production have long been popular, and Duke’s dance program (particularly ballet) is one of the best anywhere and annually home to the American Dance Festival. Theatre is also very strong, and honestly, I’m pretty surprised you couldn’t find someone who attended a show - I was associated with musical theatre at Duke, and performances are nearly always completely sold out. On the academic side of things, I had multiple theatre major friends (one of whom is now studying dramaturgy at Harvard) who raved about the department. There are numerous clubs and organizations devoted to the arts, and things like salsa on the steps [of the chapel], the annual step show, the Pitchforks (<em>great</em> a cappella group), Awaaz, etc. get A LOT of attention on campus (they seemingly took up about 1/5 of my yearbook). </p>

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I’ve never heard of this “400” thing. Perhaps you’re confusing it with the so-called “Hopkins 500,” where supposedly only 500 of the 4800 students go out on a regular basis. :confused:</p>

<p>Any post that mentions Charlotte Simmons makes me snort in derision - it bears as much resemblance to Duke as Harry Potter does to Oxford. Claiming there is an “in” crowd at Duke or “one social scene” shows rather limited knowledge of the school. (I don’t mean this as an attack. I typically admire your posts and would be equally ignorant about, say, Grinnell or Lehigh.) Duke’s social scene is remarkably diverse, and I think you’d have to work VERY hard to not fit in. In fact, I recently wrote about this very thing. </p>

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<p>I wrote a much more detailed post about life at Duke here:
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/1064584156-post8.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/1064584156-post8.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Brown is great school, and I thought it was ok when I visited, but I definitely did not get the impression that its social scene was in any way superior to or more inclusive than Duke’s. I’m very jealous of the GCB, though; Duke could definitely use one.</p>

<p>yeah…the thing about duke is that it’s not a cute little village atmosphere like brown is, with thayer street right next to campus. duke is pretty much in the middle of dense (but beautiful!) forest, and durham (i heard from quite a few current and former undergrads) kind of sucks for a college town.</p>

<p>news flash: EVERY elite college admits unqualified (although I’m not saying that they all are) kids of celebrities/politicians. my sister goes to harvard, and she can list off a bunch, including students whose parents are just incredibly wealthy or well-connected.
and btw, those who take it seriously are supposed to use the open curriculum to take advantage of all of their courses, not to scrape by in college with classes that are easier for them. iamtbh, i don’t know why you care so much about this–do you have a vested interest in putting down brown or something?</p>

<p>We have these ridiculous ■■■■■■ on here and the moment someone is minutely harsh to them…err him, in my case… I’m now being PUERILE. NOT PUERILE!!! Any other obscure words that replace five commonly understood and more suitable words anyone would like to entertain us with? Using the word puerile is puerile.</p>

<p>lol, when I read ‘puerile’ last night, I turned to my friend and was like “someone used ‘puerile’ on the internet.” We both had a good laugh about SAT words.</p>

<p>Thanks warblersrule86. I was about to address the many many inaccuracies of that post.</p>

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<p>Why would you dig that far back to bring up this thread again? And where are you getting this information? I have nothing against Brown, but do you really feel so insecure about your school as to criticize others for turning it down?</p>

<p>What “evidence to the contrary” are you talking about? Yes, I wanted a pre-professional school. What’s wrong with that? I wanted a college that will get me employed. I wanted on-campus recruiting. I wanted my GPA to count for something. Now, before the attacks start, let me say that of course, Open Curriculum, Providence, and Ivy League were all very appealing. But in the end, I chose Duke. Am I sorry I didn’t choose Brown? No. Would I have been sorry if I had chosen Brown? Probably not. But in the end, between Duke and Brown, there’s really not that much difference in terms of how you’ll end up.</p>

<p>I know these X vs. Y colleges are very sensitive topics at this time of year. Current students are putting their own doubts about the school aside in hopes of convincing prospectives to choose their school. Pre-frosh who have made their decision are suppressing their doubts to reduce any cognitive dissonance caused by their decision (you’ll notice that the Class of 2014 will typically be the most fervent and bigoted of posters at this time of year). But prospectives: in the end, your anxiety won’t be worth it. Unless two schools are radically different (which Duke and Brown are not), then the only things that will prevent you from enjoying your college experience are your own personal inadequacies. And don’t give me any bull about anyone not having any doubts about their school. Regardless of how much we love our schools, we can all name 10 things that we’d change. But we could also name 100 things that we wouldn’t change, and that’s what makes us love it. So I apologize from creating this thread one year ago, but I too fell victim to the flood of anxiety that comes with choosing a school.</p>

<p>Modestmelody, you too are a “kid on the internet.” And after more than 4,000 posts, I’m sure you don’t think your posts are as worthless as you’re suggesting. Your posts were one of the reasons I started liking Brown when I began applying. Would it be fair to discredit posts that are no different from yours, aside from their sentiment?</p>

<p>Knat I didn’t bring it up, someone else did. And I meant no disrespect to you at all, you probably made the right choice for you personally, though I disagree with some of your characterizations. My tone is largely a reaction to how other posters were spinning things here and it was my attempt to tell the “other story” in the same fashion, pretty much tongue-in-cheek so that students on here DON’T read more into things than they should. </p>

<p>I’m sorry this was not more clear from my posts but o largely agree with your sentiment.</p>

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<p>Oh yeah, I forgot Brown was the only school in the world that ever let anybody in who wasn’t exactly qualified… I’m just curious, but do you happen to know the average SAT score of Duke’s men’s basketball team? Last I checked it was under 1000/1600.</p>

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<p>Oh, I know. Duke and Brown are two peas in a pod. Perhaps you missed my prior post (#24): </p>

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<p>Duke is like a giant J.Crew store.
Brown is like a giant Urban Outfitters.</p>

<p>:) no lie!</p>

<p>^ahahah that’s funny considering I love J. Crew and hate Urban. Guess I made the right choice? :p</p>

<p>In that case you definitely have!</p>

<p>There seems to be alot of good and bad about the two collages and i find myself not sure on which i would prefer, if someone could give me info on their anthropology departments i’d really appreciate it
tks Nick:)</p>

<p>Brown and Duke are coincidentally ranked 1 and 2, respectively, as America’s Douchiest Colleges. </p>

<p>Duke:
Affectations: Pressed oxford; Goldman Sachs summer-internship tote; always ending the party by taking your shirt off and wrestling a guy named Schmitty.</p>

<p>A peek inside: They’re probably number one. But we’d rather not rank Duke number one at anything.
In ten years, will be: Still trying to re-create the golden age of banking while wearing driving mocs and no socks.</p>

<p>Brown:
Home of: The “Peace Sign on My Mom’s 7 Series” ******</p>

<p>Affectations: A belief that grades, majors, and course requirements are just another form of cultural hegemony; using the word hegemony.</p>

<p>In ten years, will be: Living with your family in an old house that you quit your job to refurbish yourself (by overseeing a contractor) with painstaking historical accuracy in a formerly decaying section of the city that’s recently been reclaimed by a small population of white guys in hand-painted T-shirts who are helping you put together a health care fund-raiser for MoveOn.org.</p>

<p>Douchiest course offering: English 200: On Vampires and Violent Vixens: Making the Monster Through Discourses of Gender and Sexuality.</p>

<p>Honorable-mention limousine-liberal institutions: Duke, Reed, Oberlin, Wesleyan, Bard, RISD.</p>

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One of the unique things about Duke is that it doesn’t have an anthropology department. Biological, cultural, and linguistic anthropology are separated into separate departments. </p>

<p>Duke is hands down the better option for biological anthropology; Brown has virtually no offerings in that area. Brown is likewise the obvious choice for archaeology, as Duke has no anthropological archaeologists.</p>

<p>It’s a toss-up between the two for cultural anthropology and linguistics. I think most would give an edge to Duke in the former and Brown in the latter, but I doubt you’d see a significant difference at the undergraduate level. </p>

<p>Have you visited either university? Duke was a university I didn’t like on paper but loved after a visit; Brown was a university I loved on paper but hated after a visit.</p>

<p>Haha, On the opposite, I visited Duke several years ago, it didn’t bring me any enthusiasm or passion, Why, i don’t know, it’s just a strange feeling, maybe the school culture’s influence - i didn’t see the diversity of the student body, nor visitor friendliness. </p>

<p>But while i visited many other schools (like Harvard, Yale…) i didn’t hate them, this is another feeling.</p>