Lecom is DO :-
Is this is direct entry or we need to study premed and Mcat and DO?
Is too much expensive?
Can you please help me how is life for DO? How many years we need to study etc…
My Daughter is 11 grade, She want go BSN nursing.( Some people told me Nursing hectic lifestyle).
Her GPA is good (4.0/4.0 UW) but SAT/ACT not good (1310/26)
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hi all, posting for my daughter. can’t believe i am doing this after feeling confused, frustrated, and stressed for many months! very grateful that i am getting to do this!!
ACT: 35 | SAT: did not take | GPA: 4.0/4.4 uw | ORM / Indian | Ohio
ECs: varsity tennis captain | musician/team leader of school’s music club | vp of school student govt | fundraised for pediatric cancer | food pantry volunteer | NHS president at school | TA for ELL math class in school | secretary of korean culture club at school
Work: part time job as a dining server at a senior home
Medical ECs: virtual physician shadowing, hospice volunteer
Other stuff: computer science research internship at a public university (with publication)
Rec letters: didnt read, but must have been good. very friendly personality, had great relationship with teachers always.
Hooks: none
Goal:
plan A: get into BS/MD
plan B: land a good merit scholarship from Case western undergrad
plan C: Ohio state undergrad
Undergrad-Only programs:
- Ohio State Neuroscience | accepted into honors with 3K / year merit
- Ohio State BMS program | rejected pre-interview
- Michigan | wait-listed
BS/MD Programs - Rejected pre-interview:
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Rutgers | UG accepted no $
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Rochester | UG accepted with 10k / year
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Stony Brook | UG accepted with 15k / year, not that it mattered - but we were surprised about not getting into Honors/Wise
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UPitt | UG accepted with 15k / year
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Case | UG waitlisted - and with that, Plan B went down the drain!
Interviewed at Cincinnati, placed on alternate list, received acceptance on 05/11 !!
Decision before May 1st : Ohio State undergrad
Decision after May 11th : Cincinnati Connections BS/MD
Some extra info:
daughter wanted to be a vet until 10th grade. changed her mind mid-way thru the sophomore year. all her ECs with senior home, hospice etc was all stuff she started doing from early middle school because she cared. nothing was ever a checklist item for resume. infact, we didnt even consider going the BS/MD route until after she landed a 35 in her only attempt at the ACT.
some might feel that we did not apply broadly enough. but considering what our goal was, i still stand by our college list. these essays are a pain, i have a lot of respect to some of these kids here who applied to 15-20 schools or more, but my daughter could not have done it. 
essay counsellor experience: really pushed her to think through better examples. couldnt have done this without her. counsellor kept warning us that BS/MD admits were almost impossible because of zero clinical experience, esp being ORM.
firstly, ohio does not permit EMT volunteering until the kid turns 18. we dont have personal doctor friends whom we could have requested favors. on top of it, everything was closed during COVID and we couldnt find shadowing / clinical volunteering using regular process.
So… though we knew that chances were low-none, we just believed that her hospice musical volunteering and work experience at senior centers truly showed her empathy, leadership, and character to pursue medicine. she had a lot of meaningful experiences with serving seniors at both places and a couple of essays highlighted that.
every reject was painful until cincinnati finally called her for an interview. her interview coach was amazing and she came a LONG way from her first mock interview (which was like a cartoon show!) to the 5th interview where her preparedness and confidence really came through. i dont know what we would have done if we hadnt found this coach! you know who u are and a BIG, BIG thank you, we will remember your contribution always!
getting waitlisted at Case RD for undergrad was super painful. i wrote a very long post (Thread for BS/MD BS/DO 2021-2022 - #4231 by happyFlamingo) on the main forum and received overwhelming support from all the senior members there. was very grateful to get several ideas from them and we followed through on some of them.
fast fwd to may 11 - getting the acceptance from Cincinnati was the best possible outcome for our daughter and family. we are beyond thrilled that this ordeal is ending on such a happy note. thank you to a couple of you on this forum for declining your cincinnati admits and deciding to enroll elsewhere
Lastly, dont really have a lot of advice for parents of future applicants, except -
- each kid’s story/motivation is different. let us just make sure they are happy and let us not nudge/pressurize them towards medicine
- application process is treacherous. always encourage them and let them know that u are proud of them through rejects and wait-lists
- things will always work out at the end, BS/MD or not, medicine or not.
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State: CA
Gender: female
Ethnicity: Asian
Income: >200k
Hooks: none
Stats
- GPA: 4.0 (UW), 4.6 (W) at time of the application, Class Rank: 1/518
- SAT: 1530 (two attempts, 750 R/W, 780 Math), SAT Math II: 800
AP Classes and Scores
- AP Euro, AP Human Geo, AP Calc AB, AP US History: 5
- AP Bio, AP Lang: 4
- AP Physics, AP Comp Sci Principles, AP 3D Art, AP Macroeconomics: did not take exam/will not take exam
- AP Stats, AP Microeconomics, AP Spanish Lang, AP Psychology, AP Lit: taking this year
Letters of rec
- Teachers: very strong from calc and lang teacher
- Counselor: not seen but presumably strong
- Coach and volunteer supervisor: very, very strong
Awards/Honors
- All just athletic and academic awards from school or club, nothing that was really special
- Recognized in local non-profit and county-wide article/newsletter for community service passion project
Extracurriculars/Shadowing/Research
- 300+ hours overall
- Founded a community service club in sophomore year (president for all three, somewhat medically related)
- Other club: president for one year, volunteer coordinator for 1 year, member all four years, coordinator and initiator of project to make homeless care packages
- National Honor Society: treasurer for 1 year, community service committee for one year, initiator and coordinator of menstrual product drive for students in need
- Math and Sci Club secretary for 2 years
- Helped initiate volunteer position/group at a local non-profit for students and senior member of that volunteer group
- Volunteer at local nursing home
- Volunteer for local Catholic Youth Ministry group
- Volunteer swimming dryland conditioning coach
- Swimmer for 10 years: HS team captain for two years, club team MVP, club team junior national development group, qualified for national-level swim meets, recruited by D1 schools + top D3 schools (NYU, Johns Hopkins, CalTech), CIF finalist freshman and junior year (sophomore year – COVID)
- Research w/ academic physician at T20 med school: >100 hours, research paper in review to be published
- Shadowed two doctors (an internist and a specialist): 100 hours
BS/MD Programs:
- Stony Brook Scholars for Medicine: interviewed, ACCEPTED
- ACPHS/SUNY Upstate Accelerated Scholars: interviewed, ACCEPTED (forwarded by Purchase too but SUNY chooses med school based on which UG ranks you higher on their list)
- Saint Peter’s University/NJMS: interviewed, ACCEPTED, over full-tuition scholarship
- SLU Medical Scholars: no interview, ACCEPTED + accepted as Presidential Scholar (full-tuition scholarship, must interview for it)
- Baylor/Baylor: invited to faculty session w/ UG, interviewed by med school, waitlisted
- Brooklyn College/SUNY Downstate: interviewed, waitlisted
- Siena/AMC: interviewed, waitlisted
- Hofstra: waitlisted for interview
- UPITT GAP: forwarded to med school, rejected pre-interview after med school essay evaluation
- Drew University/NJMS: interviewed by undergrad for BA/MD, rejected pre-interview w/ med school
- Brown PLME: no interview, rejected for UG and PLME
- Case Western PPSP: rejected pre-interview, withdrew UG application
- Rochester REMS, VCU, Caldwell/NJMS, Rutgers/NJMS, Oklahoma MHSP, UArizona APME, Adelphi/Upstate, UAlbany/Upstate, FAU: rejected pre-interview, accepted for undergrad
Non-BS/MD
- Harvard: rejected
- Cal Poly SLO (biochem): waitlisted (surprised since it was a safety)
- University of the Pacific: accepted
- University of South Florida: accepted
- Local public university: accepted
Decision: Stony Brook Scholars for Medicine (honors college)
Scholarship: 10k/year
Reflections/advice/things I learned:
- College confidential is a great resource for info, but don’t let what other people are saying on here freak you out, some people will get interviews and acceptances at different times from the same school
- Don’t be intimidated by the stats/profiles people post on here, everyone has different strengths and things to offer that a school might find impressive
- DO NOT shy away from applying to a school because you think you might not be good enough/won’t get in because of your stats, BS/MD admissions is a wild process and you just don’t know if there’s something the admissions team might like about you despite “lower” stats (i almost didn’t apply to my program of choice because I thought I wasn’t gonna get in)
- Stats do matter, but not as much as some people think (i know someone who got into a program w/ <1400 SAT because she had really good interviews) – your personality/character and meaningful experiences shown by essays, LORs, and interviews matter A LOT more
- Use your connections if you have them to get shadowing/research experience and don’t be shy about reaching out to ask doctors for them
- Apply to lots of schools/cast a wide net: acceptance rates for these programs are VERY low, sometimes lower than Ivies, so increase your chances of getting into one by applying to many, also apply to schools (BS/MD and reg UG) of all tiers – if you do, start applications EARLY, you’ll be writing A LOT of essays (great time for reflection though)
- Choose what safety schools/non-BS/MD schools to apply to wisely: did not apply to UC Berkeley, UCLA, and other popular schools t20s because they’re known for grade deflation and are very large schools to compete at for pre-med – high GPA (3.8 or higher), strong LOR, and research (both easier to get at smaller institutions where u can get to know profs) are important when applying to med school if u go trad route
- Apply to Baylor/Baylor!!!: if you make it to the faculty session (first round after initial application review), you will learn SO much that could help prep you for other interviews and learn a lot about medicine, applying to it was probably the best choice I made during the admissions process, Baylor/Baylor process was my absolute FAVORITE experience in the whole admissions process
- Most interviews were very conversational, be ready to talk about yourself and your passions beyond your interest in academics and medicine, interviews can be a great learning opportunity too
- Expect rejection (lots of it) and trust the process – admissions counselors also evaluate whether or not you would be a good fit for the school, so just bc you don’t get in doesn’t mean it’s because you’re not good enough. What schools you get into and what scholarships you get do not define who you are, so don’t let rejection get the best of you!
- when all is said and done, don’t just pick the “best” top ranked school; choose the school that is the best fit for you and that you think will make u grow into the best doctor u can be! at the end of the day, patients will not ask you where you went to med school. they just want a doctor that will treat them with compassion and kindness, and that’s what really matters.
Good luck to future applicants, and I hope this helps! Feel free to PM me if u have questions (probably will not be on CC after this summer)
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Wow, what a resilience going through this lengthy process and congratulation on your wonderful result!
- The Common app allows 20 colleges max. Would you please share how you were able to apply for 32 schools total? Did you also use the Coalition app?
- What do you think the number of APs (assuming score 4 or 5) impact the outcome of BSMD applications?
Thanks!
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Not an admin so no need for “flame” , this is the results thread so please use below thread for further questions .
Also I am not the thread owner but here is my 2c
- Yes u can use Coalition and some colleges allow to apply thru their portal too
- Short answer the more good score on anything is better.
Long answer… Overall BSMD is a “holistic/entire” process. I have seen students with X - APs get 3-4 interviews whereas some students who have more than X APs get only 1-2. There are lots of factors like GPA, score, electives, (sadly location, diversity), extracurriculars make the whole picture.
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Hi!
Has anyone been accepted to a BS/MD with a 3.86-3.88 gpa this year?
Hello!
Has anyone been accepted with a 1510 SAT, 4.0 UW, 4.5 W, 3 years of research, and other very strong extracurriculars (also Asian)?
Hello.
Thank you for your info.
Nova is non binding means can apply out other medical school?
Does any one know nova is non binding?
As far as I know, Nova is non-binding.
I believe BS/DO is non binding
GPA: 4.0 (UW), 4.7 (W) at the time of application
Class Rank: NA
SAT: Near Perfect
SAT Subject Tests:
Chemistry: 800
Math: 800
Bio: 800
AP’s (at time of application)
Chem 4
USH 5
Lang 5
Bio 5
Teacher / Counselor Recs: Not seen but assume to be Very Strong, teachers knew my daughter well
State: NJ
Gender: F
Ethnicity: Non-Caucasian
Income: >150k
Hooks: None
Awards:
- Various school awards
- HOSA international awards
- Spanish Awards
Major ECs:
- Dual varsity athlete
- student council
- 2 honor societies
- several club leadership positions
Community Service:
- 4 years of cultural volunteering
- Personal community service project
Medically related activities:
- Certified EMT
- Physician Shadowing
- PT volunteer
- Research x2 (2 DNA sequence publications)
- Hospital Volunteer
Applied to the following BS/MD Programs:
- Case PPSP - Interview - Waitlisted - ACCEPTED
- PennState / Jefferson - interviewed - ACCEPTED
- BU - Interview - ACCEPTED
- Union/AMC - Interview - Waitlisted - ACCEPTED
- Brooklyn Downstate - Interview - ACCEPTED
- W&J Temple - Interview - ACCEPTED
TCNJ, NJIT, Drew, Stevens - Interview - rejected
Rutgers, Caldwell - Rejected pre interview
Numbers 13-20. Rejected pre interview
Applied to the following undergraduates:
2 ivies, 4 t20s, Waitlisted at 2 t20s, accepted to 0 regular undergrads
DECISION: made the decision right for me, won’t share because D isnt comfortable
Was fortunate to get selected into so many schools. My greatest advice is to be genuine on your apps, and you will end up where you belong.
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What a cycle: 5(kinda)/11 bsmd acceptance
(You’ll see what I mean at the end)
Demographics: male, white Hispanic, NJ
Major: biophysics, biomedical engineering, or whatever was required from program
Sat: 1450(one sitting) and 1480(superscore)
Gpa and rank: 3.98 UW, 4.44 W and ranked 4/360
Courses: mostly honors and ap other than like gyms and a few electives
Aps (score that’s was sent at time of application): Physics 1 (5), English Comp (5), Human Geography (5), Chem (4), bio, stats, calc ab, environmental, Spanish, physics c mech and e&m
Awards
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Hispanic Scholarship Fund Scholar: attended Youth Leadership Institute 2021 (400/7650 attended)
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Ap Scholar with honor
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College board national Hispanic recognition
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Honors societies: Science 11/12th (historian), math 11/12, Spanish 10/11, national 12
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Nominated by high school to apply for Nj governor school of science (got rejected lol)
Extracurriculares:
. Cross Country and Track (9-12th grade): Captain
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Spanish Medical Interpreting (12th grade): Translated for Spanish patients
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Karate Instructor (9-12th grade): 4th degree black belt and Karate Instructor
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Hospice Patient Care Volunteering (12th grade): Companionship to patients on Hospice
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Medical Shadowing (mostly all virtual) (12th grade)
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EMS Cadet (12th grade): Rode along on EMS calls
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Independent Tutor (10-12th grade): Math and Science
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Freshman/Sophomore Council Also Running for Class President: Lost election LOL
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Medicine Encompassed Volunteer (11-12th grade): Wrote medical articles
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Science/Math Teams (11-12th grade): member
Essays: I would say 8/10 at least
Commonapp- about spending time w/ family and friends at campfires and how in that environment I’m comfortable to rant about stuff I love which is mostly science
Supplementals- everything was SUPER school specific
Why medicine-
- Interpreting for a scared patient: how we bonded over language and how the patient impacted me and vise versa
- Calming down patient with Dementia: how she helped me see that I want to help bring others peace of mind as a doctor since I saw how I could make her happy just as a volunteer
***Decisions***
Bsmd:
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CWRU - interviewed - accepted
- I kinda thought I did bad on the interview, this was my last one like March 30 and my last interview before that was mid February so I was super rusty… in the group interview I tried my hardest to participate in group setting but got cutoff by time limit when presenting for our group… raised my hand for the rest of the groups that presented to show participation…. Getting accepted made my decision 1000000x harder
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BU - interviewed - accepted
- First one I found out about, and my first interviews. Both went well and had a small email exchange after the medical one
- GWU - interviewed + sent second round essay - accepted
- The interview was literally 13 minutes long and we talked about the NY jets for like 5…. Answered why medicine gracefully and concisely imo…. Interviewer said I can tell my family I had a good interview… the 13 minutes still threw me off
- VCU - interviewed accepted
- I liked the MMI format kinda. It was like a fresh slate for every question they asked
- Rutgers - first interview - second interview - rejected - (Rutgers then called me and offered me an 8 year option) - Accepted (I guess)
- By far the 2 interviews I hated the most…. The interviewers were so dry and they were literally asking the dumbest questions like “what’s your favorite lollipop flavor” ughhh……. NJMS also gave me the wrong link for my interview so I sat in the waiting room for 20 minutes to get a call saying I didn’t show up for my interview and I was like bruh I’m on it right now…. Then they gave me the right link ughhhhhh
- Hofstra - interviewed - Waitlisted - Withdrawn
- the med student interview was great, felt like I answered the questions in a way that was impressionable and the med student was super honest about the program and everything……… the MD interview was weird, he asked me like 5 questions for 10 minutes and the rest of the 30 minutes was me asking him questions about Hofstra, medicine, and research
Come prepared with hella questions for the interviewer for every interview cause you never know… sometimes that is how they base you interest which is SUPER IMPORTANT*
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Caldwell/NJMS - sent supplemental - rejected pre-first round interview - accepted UG
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U Rochester - rejected pre interview - accepted UG
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UPitt - sent supplemental - rejected pre interview - accepted UG
10.UConn - rejected pre interview - accepted UG
- Brown - rejected
Regular UG:
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Temple (messed up bsmd application so just applied to UG regular smhhhh) - accepted
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NJIT - accepted
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UPenn - accepted
Interview was great… got matched with an MD coincidentally and he asked me Why Medicine lol (wasn’t expecting it from an non-bsmd program but I was soooo ready because of the other bsmd interviews)… great guy -
Harvard - waitlist - rejected (rip)
- interview was pretty good… bonded over track and field and talked about me wanting to do medicine and his business and time at Harvard… also had a follow up conversation with him on the phone because he had to leave a little early from the interview
16.Yale - rejected
- MIT - rejected
- First and worst interview… he was basically just like “talk about whatever you want” i that overwhelmed me and I didn’t not know what to talk about at all… a lot of rambling and ums and uhs but overall probably wasn’t as bad as I thought…. I think the interviewer might have noted that MIT probably isn’t the right fit for me and is probably right cause I’m more of a science vs engineering person and also pre med at MIT is a death sentence
***Conclusions***
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straight up the reason I got in was essays
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like yes the application is holistic but like there are hella people that have way better stats and ecs then me but we’re rejected
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my essays really showed my commitment to medicine and WHY I want to be a doctor ( straight up used the Ryan Gray MD template…. If you don’t know who that is, look up “med school application renovation” on YouTube)
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I was really considering NJIT cause it would be 5k a year for me after scholarship but still decided to go bsmd because the med school was not mediocre and premed sucks
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Also considered UPenn’s Velagos Scholars program (supposedly super good for md, phd, and md/phd) but the Ivy League status was still not worth premed
Reply if you have questions 
Ps. Is anyone ever still on this
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Background: white female, applied for fin aid, public school, first-gen
1510 SAT
5/311 rank
101 wGPA
11 AP’s (bombed most of my tests, didn’t submit any scores lol)
EC’s:
Sport involvement 10 years (highest level but no cool accomplishments)
Volunteer coach
Volunteered in medical offices
Research summer program (not a comp one, wasn’t published or anything)
President and founder of club
BS/MD’s:
UPitt- Rejected Pre Interview
Upstate- ACCEPTED
UR REMS- ACCEPTED
Case- Rejected Pre Interview
Siena/AMC- Rejected Pre Interview
Sophie Davis: ACCEPTED
UG:
Yale- Accepted
Cornell- Accepted
Brown- Accepted
Duke- Waitlist
Decision: REMS at UofR.
BS/MD vs Ivies: This was a very difficult choice for me and I scoured the internet to find advice on which choice is better, so I wanted to create this post as a point of reference for anyone in a similar position. I’m going to address some common claims made against BS/MDs and my thoughts on them.
- “What if you change your mind?”
This is a very valid point- 18 is young to make a career decision. However, to get accepted to a BS/MD program (especially multiple) requires a very extensive application process. For REMS I had to write 3 essays and do 2 days of interviews for a total of over 12 hours. Of course, not every program is as extensive, but generally, you have to do a lot in order to prove your commitment to the profession. Part of that is having enough exposure to the field and demonstrating having a good understanding of what medicine entails. If I was able to convince admissions faculty, senior doctors, and program directors that I’m committed to medicine- I probably am. Of course, anyone can change their mind. You can do the traditional route and change your mind first semester, or first year of medical school, or after residency, and so on. But I truly believe that if you’ve been seriously committed to pursuing medicine up to this point it’s likely you’ll continue on that path ( as long as you’re not doing it for the wrong reasons, like money or parental pressure).
Additionally, getting an MD is not the be-all-end-all of your career choices. Chances are that even if you DO change your mind, it’ll still align with the longtime interests that drew you to medicine in the first place. So patient care isn’t for you? There’s research, teaching, biotech, health policy, law, and so on.
Lastly, and this is my biggest point here, if I were to change my mind at an Ivy doing a trad path to med school it would be BECAUSE of the process to get INTO medical school NOT because of that’s not the career I want. Being restricted in classes, cramming everything, always feeling behind, MCAT studying, having to take a gap year, anxiously knowing that even at Yale only 85% of students get accepted to ANY med school INCLUDING up to TWO gap years and wondering if I’ll be in that 15%. At that point, Investment Banking or Consulting would start to look very attractive even though I know I have ZERO passion for that- I’d just consider that I have an “in” for the industry and could make money quick. In other words, the pre-meds that change their minds about medicine might not have changed their minds if it wasn’t for the cutthroatness and burnout of trying to just get into a med school. I hope that makes sense.
- “You can get into a better medical school after an Ivy undergrad”
While you’ll see that HYP Med is largely composed of ivy grads, you have to recognize those students were at the top of their game and many, manyyyy, had connections to get in. It’s very self-selecting in that regard, you have kids at ivies who were primed from birth to do well academically, have money, and have connections. It’s not the effect of going to an ivy undergrad, it’s the effect of having that type of background. There are of course a sizable amount of outliers, but majority took several gap years (missing out on years of earnings as a doctor) and to some degree got lucky. Just as with regular college admissions, getting into a T10 med school is really hit or miss no matter where you come from. If you don’t believe the difficulty of getting into even a T50 med school, go on reddit and look at r/premed accepted student profiles. Could you get into a better med school? Well, there’s always a chance and it depends on the med school your program is with. My program is a T30 med school, and personally I don’t think the amount of stress is worth it even if I were to end up attending a 10-20 better ranked med school (especially since med school rankings are arbitrary and I love the curriculum of my med school regardless of it’s research funding - the biggest factor in those rankings). At the end of the day, medicine has a huge burn out rate, and I think it’s better to save all the nerves and energy for treating future patients rather than competing with nutty pre meds.
- “You’ll have more freedom to explore your interests at Yale”
I think this is such a silly point. Anyone who says this clearly hasn’t done pre-med. Generally, you wouldn’t have the time as a pre med to find out that you have a passion for filmmaking. On the flip side, depending on the program, you ACTUALLY have freedom to explore your interests. You take classes you like and discover a passion for filmaking? That’s fine! You can actually develop hobbies and skills that are unrelated to medicine, and maintain a healthy work-life balance as a pre-med who isn’t woefully consumed by Kaplan MCAT books or AAMC essay’s. In fact, in my program, we’ve had dance majors, art majors, policy majors, etc. Medicine needs more diverse perspectives and you never know how a random class in basket weaving might actually lead to a cool research idea (or not! but we need less burnt out doctors who know life outside of books and labs!).
Not only that, but if you really want you can be way ahead of the curve and build connections that will serve you for getting into top residencies later on. Since you already know which med school you’re going to, you can get started with research there early on securing publications and stellar letters of recommendations years in advance. While traditional pre meds are stressing over med school interviews, and traditional med school students are cramming trying to build a strong resume for residency, you have the chance to get started early.
These were the most common concerns I heard, but feel free to ask anything else. Please note that is just my experience and opinion and not an end all be all. Not all BS/MD programs are made the same and there are definitely some instances where this advice wouldn’t apply. But take from what it what serves you! There are a few instances I don’t think a BS/MD is worth it over an Ivy, and that’s if there’s a significant difference in loan burden from the undergrad. Ivies do tend to be generous with financial aid, and if you’d have to take out a lot more loans to go to the BS/MD perhaps it’s not worth it. I also think that certain accelerated BS/MD’s don’t allow for a lot of the benefits I mentioned here. Lastly, BS/MD’s that have the same MCAT and GPA requirements you’d need to get into med school traditionally are a bit questionable as well.
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What helped me get in:
My essay’s. My life wasn’t curated to getting into medical school so most of my EC’s were actually not medical at all, but I still tied it into medicine. For example, I coached my sport to younger kids and I discussed how I enjoyed being in a position of where I had the responsibility to cultivate a welcoming environment while still looking out for their safety and teaching them. Or, my research wasn’t medicine related either but we worked with living animals who caught a bug and got sick mid study. Although that wasn’t supposed to happen, it taught me what it means to have to set aside your personal desires to care for the wellbeings of the sick (i did not equivilate animals lives to human lives to be clear) because often I’d have to give p my weekends to come in due to emergencies or I’d be tired after school and still have to give my full attention to animal care.
I think this is really important because BS/MD programs for the most part want to attract strong and diverse applicants. Diverse not just in demographics but in experiences and skill sets. That’s why I think discussing EC’s outside of medicine works well. Plus, AO’s read a lot of similiar essay’s about HOSA and the like, it’s refreshing to read a new story once in a while I would assume.
Also, I didn’t exaggerate ANYTHING. Like I didn’t pretend to have a full understanding of everything in medicine because I shadowed a doctor for a week. Someone told me once that you only fulll=y understand what medicine is once you’re a practicing doctor, and I think that’s important to consider. You don’t want to sound like a know it all to career doctors and AO’s that know your experience was limited no matter how much of you had. I also didn’t have an epipheny for medicine (no life altering story that made me realize in a min i wanted to be a doctor) nor did I know I wanted to be a doctor since age 4. I was honest about my gradual process of figuring out that medicine is for me, which started with me wanting to work in the FBI lol.
Another thing I did in a few essay’s and interview questions is also discuss how I know other career paths aren’t of interest to me. I did have some experience outside of medicine to make my decision to become a doctor more solid. I think this is important as well because they don’t want you changing your mind in college when you grew up only ever knowing medicine and suddenly discovering that investment banking is more your forte.
I was also really enthusiastic about the schools I applied to, and I think that played a role as well. I chose programs and schools that truly aligned with my values and that’s something I miled as well- my compatilibity with the school’s and program’s mission.
Lastly, at the end of the day I probably got lucky to some extent. Whether it be a good interviewer that day or they wanted someone interested in my major, it worked out somehow.
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Hello,
You mentioned your son got accepted into USF Morsani BS/MD: Accepted with full ride - I was wondering how he applied for USF BS/MD, because their web site:
PLEASE NOTE: There is no formal application for the 7-Year B.S./M.D. Program. Students interested in following the 7-Year B.S./M.D. Track must reach initial eligibility requirements (below) and should communicate this information to their Honors College advisor during their summer orientation. Students will formally declare their intent to follow the Program by completing a declaration form on the B.S./MD website in mid-April of the first year on campus.
[PROGRAM FAQS]
INITIAL ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS (FALL 2020 AND BEYOND)
- Apply directly for Undergraduate Admission to USF and, after, to the Judy Genshaft Honors College (JGHC)
- Once admitted to USF and the Judy Genshaft Honors College, no additional application is required for the 7-Year B.S./M.D. Program. Note: Admission to JGHC does not imply 7-Year eligible; you must meet criteria identified in bullet 2 above.
FORMAL CONTINUATION PROCESS (FALL 2018 AND BEYOND)
- Eligible students follow the 7-Year Track during their first year of undergraduate enrollment
- In the Spring semester of Year 1, students interested in formally continuing on to the second year of the program will be required to email a declaration of intent
- Students who meet all specified benchmarks will officially apply to the Morsani College of Medicine (MCOM) Core Program during the summer between Years 2 and 3
Thank you for your help!
Nova is non-binding. You can apply to other medical schools and not lose your seat at Nova.
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Hi BSMD2122
First of all congralutions for your acceptance. Im looking for some info on HOSA club,
My Son is very much interested in BS/MD program and he is looking to form a club which is helpful for students who are interested in health career.
Any details regarding how to start a HOSA club in his school will be helpful
Tahnks
Hello all,
I hope it’s ok to post this here- I have started a youtube channel that I hope will help give insight to future applicants and provide a glimpse into the life of a BSMD student.
I was very burnt out from the application cycle so I never got the chance to sit down and write a post for results on CC, but my College Decision Reaction Video shows all the programs I applied to and which ones I got interviews for and acceptances for and there’s a separate video for my Stats and Extracurriculars. The video format was just easier for me. Best of luck to everyone! I plan on vlogging throughout the year to share my journey with BSMD hopefuls and will post a “first week” video in the coming weeks.
Please feel free to take this post down if it’s not allowed as I’m just trying to help and would have liked to have such resources as an applicant last year.
(I did get into PLME, Hofstra, APME, and waitlisted at B2Baylor and applied to 17 total.)
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Hello
New parent here. A friend point me here.
Totally confused about the BS MD application process.
There is a mention of external counseling/ consultant by @mywish4u, @nbaj123, @dudeperfect, @happyFlamingo.
Can you share the contact details of them?
Others also please share any guidance to help me get a handle on this process.
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Hi, I am applying to Penn State/SKMC, I have a 35, however the 2021 and 2022 averages were 36 for ACT. Should I apply test optional or submit my test score?