<p>well, that is unfair
if your parents dont know how to use birth control and have like a million babies, the pressure kinda falls on you to drop out and get a job to support your family. the family that you're born into and had no control over.</p>
<p>^^^^^^^^^^^^ oooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhh</p>
<p>If blacks , hispanics, Jewish, Polish have their own scholarships and if someone wants to set up a scholarship for whites, then I think thats OK. If having a scholarship for the whites is racist than having scholarships for other minorities is also racist. The money should go to the people who really deserve it without caring about their skin color. MLK said "my four little children will not be judged by the color of their skin........." Something like need based scholarships. The number of white applicant is certainly more than the no. of hispanic ,Jewish, etc etc , so if they can have scholarships then the whites should too.</p>
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If blacks , hispanics, Jewish, Polish have their own scholarships and if someone wants to set up a scholarship for whites, then I think thats OK. If having a scholarship for the whites is racist than having scholarships for other minorities is also racist. The money should go to the people who really deserve it without caring about their skin color. MLK said "my four little children will not be judged by the color of their skin........." Something like need based scholarships. The number of white applicant is certainly more than the no. of hispanic ,Jewish, etc etc , so if they can have scholarships then the whites should too.
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<p>Uh, Poles are whites. A Polish scholarship is a white scholarship.</p>
<p>Most American blacks can't trace their heritage to a home country (which was probably only created by European imperialists anyway). I guess most Latinos could, but then again, America can't really be bothered with telling the difference amongst Mexicans, Nicaraguans, Hondurans, Cubans, etc.</p>
<p>Again, somebody define "white" for me.</p>
<p>"All the power to them. If black-only scholarships are socially acceptable, then white-only scholarships should also be socially acceptable. Personally, I think the lesson in this is that black-only scholarships are just as socially unacceptable as white-only scholarships."</p>
<p>Ding ding ding.</p>
<p>nbachris2788,</p>
<p>From Wikipedia (Race (United States Census) entry),</p>
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White. A person having origins in any of the original peoples of Europe, the Middle East. It includes people who indicate their race as "White" or report entries such as Irish, German, Italian, Lebanese, Near Easterner, Arab, or Polish
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<p>Continuing along the lines of the original post...</p>
<p>Even regardless of what I quoted in post #45...Let's ASSUME it's "wrong" to have a white only scholarship...I would still support their RIGHT to create such a program. I would disagree with the reasons but still allow for them to have such an institution in place.</p>
<p>Yes. Middle East = white. Anyone who doesn't understand that needs to go back to high school world history.</p>
<p>firewalker,</p>
<p>I personally consider Afghans, Arabs, Kurds, Persians, Turks, and so forth as Asians.</p>
<p>Asians...as in their respective countries are located in Asia? Yes. Racially? They're aryans. Hence, white.</p>
<p>If that is the case, can people with heritage in the Indian subcontinent claim to be white?</p>
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<p>I personally consider Afghans, Arabs, Kurds, Persians, Turks, and so forth as Asians.
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<p>Well, your "personal considerations" are all wrong. Your narrow and science-free (whatever little science there is in the race business) definition of white is probably "pale-skinned European, with the reluctant inclusion of Mediterraneans because without them, we can't take credit for democracy or the Renaissance". </p>
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Asians...as in their respective countries are located in Asia? Yes. Racially? They're aryans. Hence, white.
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<p>True, but not all Aryans are white, as in pale-skinned. Take Indians for example. And most sociological definitions of white by American standards has nothing to do with science but has more to do with reliance on historical precedence and shallow observations/generalizations.</p>
<p>I'm not really bothered about the fact that the BU republicans set up their own scholarship for their own people. Instead, what troubles me is their MOTIVES for setting up this scholarship. Unlike other scholarships in which the motive is helping others, the BU GOP is setting up this scholarship simply because they are angered by the fact that there are so many black scholarships and because they want to show everyone that black-only scholarships are bad. But their notioning is wrong because, if blacks want to have their own scholarship, then they should. Many blacks are poor and need financial help to afford college. BU Republicans should not be getting mad over that people are trying those who need it the most.</p>
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Well, your "personal considerations" are all wrong. Your narrow and science-free (whatever little science there is in the race business) definition of white is probably "pale-skinned European, with the reluctant inclusion of Mediterraneans because without them, we can't take credit for democracy or the Renaissance".
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<p>Now, I'm quite aware that if I make a remark against another user, it is very likely that that user will in turn make a remark against me.</p>
<p>However, after looking at the only post that I have written to you, I have to conclude that your aggressive remarks are unwarranted. I have said nothing that could possibly be construed as offensive.</p>
<p>But, your baseless attacks mean nothing to me. My opinion remains. I consider Afghans, Arabs, Kurds, Persians, Turks, and many other groups in the Middle East as Asians. You know why? Because they're in Asia! El héroe obvio wins yet again.</p>
<p>I have no qualms with including Mediterraneans as whites. We might as well cut the crap and just say Italians and Greeks. Potito Starace is white by my definition. Pyrros Dimas is white by my definition. My professor of Italian descent is white by my definition. My dad's Greek colleague is white by my definition. Maybe it's because, oh, I don't know, Italy and Greece are European countries? That could be it. We should ask El Héroe Obvio.</p>
<p>You know, if there were more people like you, Türkiye Cumhuriyeti might have a chance of becoming a full member of the EU.</p>
<p>Aryan != Dravidian</p>
<p>I can't summarize them readily for you nbachris, because USSCJ sets precedents for MANY scenarios. IE those with descent from the Caucus Mtn.'s but without the White skin are not considered white. Mexicans who had pure Spanish blood went to the USSCJ to claim their White status, but failed. However after that case, the term Hispanics became officially known to describe all persons of South American descent. The exceptions and restrictions go on and on, but that wasn't the true intention of original post. The point of my original post was to refute the your claim about the difficulty in telling who is white, and who is not. I still have my ethnic studies course notes, so i'll write an informative post in the near future after I finish apps. I sincerely apologize for squeezing in posts without an explanation to its premise, but I just had to. After a semester of ethnic studies, it's truly insane how the US Supreme Court goes to define what it takes to be White. But don't worry, i'll post more about it in a bit.</p>
<p>AA sucks.</p>
<p>if there's black scholarships, you bet your ass there should be white scholarships, yellow scholarships, red scholarships, and every ethnicity scholarship.</p>
<p>the whole point of AA was to make sure nobody takes race into account right?? </p>
<p>well it turned out to be just the opposite. goddam hippies</p>
<p>damn right.............AA truly sucks</p>