Hi, I am going to be in Emory’s freshman class next year, and I am interested in double majoring in Business Administration and Economics. If I start taking the required classes beginning in freshman year, is this doable? Also, I have a lot of AP credits.
Thank you for your help.
@9876abcd Eh…I don’t know why you would do that unless you want a more quantitative focus, in which case the QTM affiliated major co-hosted by the BBA program may be more ideal (or even econ. QTM. QTM may honestly be able to get more math inclined econ. students as far as the b-school in terms of landing a good job as they host and help majors land cool internships and have a capstone program that is likely to be more expansive by time you would get to it).
But if you really want to do that, it should be doable. Having lots of AP credits doesn’t matter as you can use only about 3-4 of them (Emory only takes 12 credits) towards actual Emory credit (you can use additional high passing scores to place into higher level coursework when applicable though). You’ll need to allocate wisely and you may want to use both econ. credits, if you have them, to place into intermediate economics courses your freshman year. That way you can start accelerating through portions of that major before entering the b-school.
@9876abcd
Don’t do that, Emory econ isn’t even that good. Do QTM, or a better idea would be QSS, so you can focus your business degree in something specific.
It doesn’t have to be “good”…they are double majoring with something that is. And one could argue that the upper division courses are solid, decently rigorous, and useful to those who want to go into more quantitative areas. Person may just like pure economics. I just think they need to plan if they go that direction. And of course if they do just want quantitative training that the BBA cannot provide, one of the 2 relevant QTM routes may be better. Depends on what they want. Apparently econ. has improved some anyway.
Goizueta Business School (“GBS”) (and Emory College) definitely encourages double majors. Finance and Microeconomics have many similarities and I don’t think this is a bad idea. With respect to AP credits, Emory started cramming down students effective with the Class of 2022. As Bernie mentioned, they allow only 12 now. They also changed many of the requirements to get credits from scores of 4 to scores of 5. However, the good thing about GBS is that they do early enrollment and you can enter in the spring of your sophomore year and you apply in the fall and expect to be at 56 credits by the end of the fall semester of your sophomore year. If you have the 12 credits, a regular course load of 15 credits each semester gets you there. Even with 9 AP credits, it easily doable with 15, 16, and 16. If you enroll early, you have plenty of time to double major, study abroad within the business school, or even get started towards a masters.
When you goto your admitted students day, there are events at GBS and you should ask that question of either of the pre-business advisors. By the way, congratulations on your acceptance to Emory! Good going.
@ljberkow just to clarify, only a few courses migrated to only taking 5s.
“Dooley” noted. Of course, the ones that were changed to 5s are popular Apps.
There are very few classes that require a 5. Just the AP history classes, Psych and Art.
@collegemom9 : Rough that they added psyche, which is one of the only 2 semester intro psychology sequences in the countries. Now folks with a 4 can’t get out of the most basic semester.
History and Psychology are pretty popular AP courses in many school district near mine (not so much with art).
They are at our HS as well. My son took AP History last year and is in Psych this year. Pretty sure we don’t even offer the art classes. That’s still not many classes especially when you consider that Emory is only accepting 4 classes for credit. APUSH doesn’t even get you out of a GenEd it’s only counted as an elective so can’t imagine my son would end up using his credit.
@collegemom9 : Eh…I would use them to place out of certain classes/get into special topics classes if possible. I guess Emory is doing like some of the Ivy League schools that basically do acceleration credit or exclusively use AP for placement. Although lots of them, in addition to using AP as a starting point to evaluate placement use actual placement tests (I think Oxford does this for some STEM courses).
He will most likely end up using 3 for business pre-reqs provided he gets at least 4’s and then either use Spanish or Psych, again test score dependent.
@collegemom9 : I guess what I am saying is that he can actually use those for credit and then he can do academic exploration by using others (that he may have gotten a high pass on but puts him over the formal credit usage limit) to skip out of more boring gen. ed classes (or if he is double majoring in something, something within that major) at the intro. level and instead go straight to whatever courses require those intros. that he may have gotten AP credit in (for example, I am honestly glad I never stepped foot into intro. history and political science courses. When I was there, I went straight to the 200 level special topics where allowed. Many had no pre-reqs. But with the new AP credit system, you would not only get access to those, but the classes that may for example, require one or both semesters of the U.S. history sequence. Or if you high passed AP Government courses, you can take courses requiring the intro. comparative or US politics course without formally counting the credit).
This policy was not as explicit before the credit hour reduction (when I and a bunch of cohorts after me went to Emory), but I guess they are trying to make it clear now. I would be aware of this option and strategy because I get the feeling that many still are not even though this policy may have been in affect for 2 years now (or maybe it just started, I don’t know). The easiest way to upset yourself with the academics as a first year is to take those large survey courses in the social sciences that basically give the graduate TAs the most autonomy. At least the special topics and other courses are smaller, more focused, and have more serious faculty contact, and usually more consistent and fair grading (namely because the instructor grades them). There are some exceptions like the Arab-Israeli Conflict with Dr. Stein which is an Emory classic that is huge but worth it, but I do not think that course ever had pre-reqs. I think freshmen could take it from what I remember.
He’s an adult. He will choose what works best for him which most likely be using them for his business degree
Just for clarification my son attends a competitive high school where kids aren’t able to take 20+ AP’s. They can take 2 junior year and 6 senior year. My son took 1 and 4. So he won’t be using a million credits to bypass 100 level classes.
Bernie, that’s a perfect description of Dr Stein’s class as an Emory classic. It’s been one for 40 years.
My husabamd took Stein’s class as well.
@collegemom9 : I was just making you aware of that policy, because many clearly don’t get it. They are not aware that they can use the credits they technically forfeited for placement. I am just explaining that you can and what you can do with that. Also, as much of an “adult” we were as freshmen, Emory costs a crap ton. Folks should find ways to get the best value out of it academically, professionally, and socially. Part of doing that is actually knowing things. Even when I attended, I heard students having mediocre experiences saying things like: “But we don’t even have such and such” or “You can’t do X here”…and I had to burst the bubble and say: “Yes we do, you just…” and “Yes you can”. Being aggressive about knowing what is offered and what you can do is half the battle of getting the most out of it. And it would be helpful if freshmen had a little more knowledge because they (I remember me being) are very impressionable. Their first year can lead to experiences that create impressions on them that “this is definitely how this place works, and I will move like this for now on based on that experience” when the experience may have actually been anomalous or in the case of many bad ones, completely avoidable.
One would think orientation solves this, but a) it is often perceived as too late to get students to act on non-mandatory information/options less than a week before class and b) orientation is a bit overwhelming in terms of just the information overload and how much is going on (including the social aspect. And Emory is now pretty big enrollment wise, so no longer your husband’s Emory lol). They also send summer information about some interesting things but I do suspect that incoming freshmen are likely less attentive to it because they are in their last pre-college summer, and would have probably been in “summer mode” anyway.
*The reason I give information overload on CC is because Emory often isn’t as great at getting (or at least getting attention to) certain information to students who attend and is not as aggressive as peers in terms of outward focus and marketing towards incoming and prospective students. I think first years and prospective students deserve to know the options, policies and opportunities that will help them and their aspirations/learning experience if they attend. Emory while underselling itself/opportunities overlooks a lot of things that are positive and useful that students should know. Surely you see all these annoying threads with prospective students and randoms not affiliated truly believing that near ranked peer institutions have things that Emory doesn’t. Hell, sometimes they think those places have things and qualities that THEY actually don’t.
Like I said it doesn’t apply to us. Our HS doesn’t allow the ridiculous overload of AP’s so his decision will be easy about what to use.