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<p>Ah, okay haoleboy. I thought you were serious. I read that thread and you might want to get some IT certifications. It'll make you much more marketable. Take a look at MCSE and CCNA. A business major with high-end IT certs is a very employable person. You can do IT sales for IBM/HP/Microsoft or manage other engineers at Lockheed or other large Fortune 500 companies.</p>

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My dad went to some state university in Rajasthan (India) to study Accounting and he's making about $70k a month now... I wonder what use his Accounting is?</p>

<p>More stories? My parents' friend did his BBA. He's one of the wealthiest Indians in Singapore. You have no idea how horrendously rich that guy is, really... And he was poor in his teenage years, went to some small university in India.</p>

<p>Honestly, I see my science classmates slogging their ass off everyday, and see them in their parents' shoes. The salaried class. The question here should be 'science majors: low/disproportionate returns?'

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<p>I don't understand how many times I have to say it. Accounting is a legitimate major. However, what you've brought up are not common occurrences. If you deduce that it was college that made those two individuals wealthy then you truly don't understand them (even if you are related to them). Ask them how many in their graduating class is currently making or has ever made $70,000/mo. I can tell you about a dozen people I know that are business majors that are either unemployed or in non-luxurious occupations.</p>

<p>And about engineering students...

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...slogging their ass off everyday, and see them in their parents' shoes. The salaried class.

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I'm not sure if you are aware of this but the overwhelming majority of people are in salaried positions... oh I'm sorry "classes."</p>

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<p>vector, that's precisely why I've decided to avoid the corporate world at all costs. the phoniness in people does nothing but destroy the human spirit and make you value all the wrong things. yea, im on my high horse, i know. but i'd just assume be a dead man before living out the remainder of my life surrounded by people who never give a damn about the individual, just what they can potentially get out of him. i can think of no more disgusting an existence.</p>

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<p>' I'm not sure if you are aware of this but the overwhelming majority of people are in salaried positions... oh I'm sorry "classes." '</p>

<p>So the concluding question is, do you want to be unique, different, special and a leader, or do you want to be a part of 'a majority of people'?</p>

<p>And my dad's graduating class' students all met for a reunion recently. Everyone has textile factories and their children have nice trust funds. </p>

<p>It really depends what you make out of your degree. I just feel that you cannot say that business majors are weak - it is how you use your knowledge (be it scientific or commercial). My mom's brother did chemical engineering and he's not really far. Neither are a lot of my classmates' parents who pursued science majors. But yes, sorry, I will not compare.</p>

<p>...As long as you realise that there is an importance for degrees such as BBA, MBA, Marketing etc. All these areas studies have their own ethics, and as a business student since 11th Grade, I can tell you it's not weak. If you have a natural flair for it, then it comes to you.</p>

<p>I wouldn't know what people make out of business studies in the US, but I always thought business was respected globally. Maybe it's just because US doesn't have enough resources available to businesspeople during this period of recession.</p>

<p>It's different here in Asia, because over here business runs science etc.</p>

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over here business runs science

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<p>No. Business runs nothing. Business manages, organizes, markets, sells, pays for, and and exploits science, or whatever they are in business for. Having an opinion that business managers actually run things is the exact reason people like haoleboy want nothing to do with it, at least in a corporate setting. Without the science there wouldn't be that particular business. Without the business the science would remain in university labs, and the scientist would be just as happy.</p>

<p>Entrepreneurs sustain the business. They invigorate it, give it new life or even origional life, and they do so because they know there are business managers willing to pay for it and plug away, optimize it, and conform it more to the shape of the consumer; that is what asia is good for.</p>

<p>Business is integral/critical to the whole cycle, but to say it runs anything indicates you have a very narrow view of how a business operates, grows, innovates, and becomes successful.</p>

<p>In the US, the problem with business is two fold. One hand those that go into take the stance that the "run the show". Which is entirely not true. Micromanagement and snooty attitudes to technicians and workers coupled with declining performance or lack of ability on their part to actually get the product into consumer's hands efficiently and effectively has lead to lay offs and poor opinions of what they are learning. On the other hand those who are successful in business are often seen as not having the formal business education. They are succesful because of diligence and innovation, two things not taught in school.</p>

<p>I for one believe business degrees are advantageous (I am getting my MBA, so no bias). However,the sense of entitlement that is comes with it here in the US is completely unfounded. I like to say "those who can do, those who can't teach, and those who can't do or teach manage." I am happy that your father, veshch, is doing well and it is apparent due to his classmates also doing well that the university he went to taught him something right. Here, many complaints about university education is that it is way too technical and not enough emphasis is put on how to apply that technical knowledge.</p>

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So the concluding question is, do you want to be unique, different, special and a leader, or do you want to be a part of 'a majority of people'?

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<p>Actually, what I said was that it be salaried isn't an engineering specific attribute. If you want a better answer try looking at the business majors that are also salaried and you'll understand what I'm saying. </p>

<p>I think once you actually start working, you'll find out how unqualified your business majors really are. </p>

<p>Also, about the trust fund thing the answer is either "No, less than 1% from that school makes over $70,000/mo" or an explanation why that college isn't on the top 5 list.</p>

<p>This is just one of those areas you'll never accept until you have some work experience. I think what is more disturbing is that the truly brilliant business men I've met all realized how much the academia portion of college wasn't going to propel them into wealth and you are in those classes right now and cannot clearly see that.</p>

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If you want a better answer try looking at the business majors that are also salaried and you'll understand what I'm saying.</p>

<p>I think once you actually start working, you'll find out how unqualified your business majors really are.</p>

<p>Also, about the trust fund thing the answer is either "No, less than 1% from that school makes over $70,000/mo" or an explanation why that college isn't on the top 5 list.</p>

<p>This is just one of those areas you'll never accept until you have some work experience. I think what is more disturbing is that the truly brilliant business men I've met all realized how much the academia portion of college wasn't going to propel them into wealth and you are in those classes right now and cannot clearly see that.

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<p>It has something to do with the fact that this generation has a mentality that success should be handed in a plate right after you get your college degree...</p>

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<p>wow... I just saw the gross grammatical error in my first sentence</p>

<p>Actually, what I said was that it be salaried isn't an engineering specific attribute.</p>

<p>should really be...</p>

<p>Actually, what I said was that to be in a salaried position isn't an engineering specific attribute.</p>

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<p>All you people that are looking down on science major is effing stupid, we wanna do it for the greater cause, that’s why I’m in med school studying my butt off to heal your infected wounds. Extra money is great but what you do is important; after 3 more years I will be getting the tittle doctor and that to me is the greatest achievement. I’ll be call doctor left and right and what will you be? a clown behind a desk?</p>

<p>I’m not dissing on business majors neither although I do not agree that it’s as difficult as an engineer or bio major, it still is a respectable career and can make good money if you’re the right person. The economy is hard for everyone right now so as long as you have a decent paying job, hats off to you. I don’t mind making about 10k less than an accountant but rather than having people address me as “doctor”.</p>

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<p>So Jaffer, where do you work now?</p>

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<p>People can be absolutely ridiculous. No business is not weak or stupid. Just because engineering is really hard does not make business weak or stupid. I respect a hardworking engineer on the same level that I respect a hardworking businessperson. Do what you love.</p>

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<p>“All you people that are looking down on science major is effing stupid, we wanna do it for the greater cause, that’s why I’m in med school studying my butt off to heal your infected wounds. Extra money is great but what you do is important; after 3 more years I will be getting the tittle doctor and that to me is the greatest achievement. I’ll be call doctor left and right and what will you be? a clown behind a desk?”</p>

<p>Please do not try to represent anyone but yourself. Saying “we” want to do it for a greater cause is absolutely ridiculous. My brother was a biochemistry major. I can assure you, he did it purely for a large paycheck. I am glad you are such a proud person. It sounds more like you want to be a doctor for your own pride, as opposed to your call to the greater good. Your greatest achievement will not be to heal others but to call yourself doctor, or so you said. Would you deign to speak with us mere mortals once you have your degree, doctor? Oh, my parents are those clowns behind desks you speak of. They put my siblings through college and are about to put me through too. There is honor you might not be able to grasp in that. Please don’t be so foolish as to connect a choice of major with a person’s character.</p>

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<p>No, both majors can lead to well paying jobs. Actuaries make close to six figures and nowadays wall street and other corporations are looking for math majors because it is a difficult degree which requires a lot of analytical thinking. Business majors can get well paying jobs as well; ex: CPA’s can make six figures after a few years.</p>

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<p>this thread is hilarious. BUMP</p>