<p>if you study business your job will most likely be a secretary or things of that nature right?</p>
<p>I know a business major that is now driving forklifts.</p>
<p>lol @ stupid people</p>
<p>"if you study business your job will most likely be a secretary or things of that nature right?"</p>
<p>Yeah you study for a 4-year degree at a top school to get into business to type up notes and take phone calls and voice messages..... what an idiot.</p>
<p>TheMK99. muahahahahaahhaaa I agree</p>
<p>lol ok that is really bad vinny.</p>
<p>Yep, and I know an engineering student that graduated with a 3.8 from a good school that's unemployed because he can't find a job.</p>
<p>I know a hobo who won the lottery. Obviously, anyone who chooses a life other than a hobo's life is damning themselves to poverty.</p>
<p>No ya don't. and if he wanted a job he could find one. </p>
<p>All of you that are saying that a person at these schools Wharton and Stern (I guess they are good?) work as hard as somebody in the sciences or engineering, you are in denial. They don't work as hard as a #300 rated engineering school.</p>
<p>Yes, I do.</p>
<p>They may not work as hard but they have more sense. Let's see--engineers start at $55,000 and in 10 years might make $100K if lucky. Wharton grad starts at $80,000 or so incl bonus and in 10 years making $1,000,000 if lucky. HMMMMMMMMMMM. Who is smarter?</p>
<p>Mr. Payne notes,"doubt most physical science, math or engineering majors would have sympathy. Major choice does not make one stupid or smart. However, I would think that accounting is simply not that close in difficulty to those previously mentioned majors"</p>
<p>Response: Obviously, many of you are ignorant of what an accounting major entails. I majored in accounting and minored in Physics. I also took a lot of math since I minored in Physics. Does that qualify me to make a judgment statement?</p>
<p>Honestly, math and physics are more sophisticated. There is no question. However, accounting is very hard but in a different way. It is more akin to studying law. There are reams of information to know, which is similar to Organic Chemistry, and there is a lot of reading, clear thinking and interpretaton involved, which is akin to studying law. The math isn't as hard as physics problems,but many of the problems involved are very tricky.</p>
<p>Moreover, unlike physics and math, accounting is a weed-out major. Grading is very deflated. At a number of schools, it isn't unusual for 50% or more of those starting out in accounting to drop out in the first year alone. Most of these were flunked out too.Grades for intermediate accounting aren't high either. In many ways, grading in accounting echoes that of engineering. In addition, accounting requires 150 credits for the CPA. The CPA has a 20% or less passing rate too. As I said, accounting is a very weed-out subject.</p>
<p>In short, I think that accounting is almost as hard as being a physics and math major. It is just hard in a different way.</p>
<p>Moreover, accounting grads usually start off at between $45,000-$55,000 and can easily earn six figures quickly. Top partners earn in excess of $1,000,000 per year. In addition, many corporations pick accountants to head up their companies. In contrast, as Barrons notes above, most physics and math majors will be lucky to earn as much as $120,000 per year, if that much.</p>
<p>Thus, show a bit more respect for those poor accounting students. You never know when you will be working for one!</p>
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They may not work as hard but they have more sense. Let's see--engineers start at $55,000 and in 10 years might make $100K if lucky. Wharton grad starts at $80,000 or so incl bonus and in 10 years making $1,000,000 if lucky. HMMMMMMMMMMM. Who is smarter?</p>
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<p>How about some proof. I wouldn't b suprised if they made $40K starting out.</p>
<p>accountants start out at around 35k a year,</p>
<p>Big 4 starts out at close to 50k buddy.</p>
<p>depending on pay scale, they can start as high as 65k with signing bonus of 5k. That is excluding the year end bonus as well which can range from around 1.5k-4k</p>
<p>Yes, big 4 accounting firms start people off at least 50K and could easily be more depending on background, and this doesn't include bonuses. Even mid size accounting firms are paying close to 50K to start.</p>
<p>Engineering: <a href="http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes172141.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes172141.htm</a></p>
<p>Median: 67K
90th Percentile: 102K</p>
<p>Accounting: <a href="http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes132011.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes132011.htm</a></p>
<p>Median: 52K
90th Percentile: 90K</p>
<p>Significant differences.</p>
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Physics and math aren't weedout majors? I guess the next question is this - what was the GPA of your physics minor versus your accounting classes. That might be the most telling. However, I do wonder about the difficulty of physics and math classes. I generally got higher marks in those classes than the standard engineering stuff. Maybe this is just my school though, I know other schools were the calc classes were treated as weeders and had an extremely harsh curve.</p>
<p>Mr. Payne, Admittedly I had a bit lower GPA in physics than accounting,but it wasn't that much of a difference. Also, it could have been my situation. I certainly worked harder in accounting than in Physics. </p>
<p>As far as I can see, with Physics, it either came to you or it didn't. If you are one of the kids that had a natural knack, you didn't need to work that hard. Accounting always took a lot of work, and I had almost straight A's.</p>
<p>and Yes, Physics and math certainly were weed out majors in the intro coures. However, upper level physics courses were graded a bit easier. This wasn't as true in accounting.</p>
<p>That one can get almost straight A's in accounting says more than anything. If one gets a 3.8+ in engineering/physics/math....they are probably near a 140+ IQ and they put in serious time. I don't put nearly so much weight on an accountant with a 3.8+. Maybe that is incorrect of me.</p>
<p>"if one gets a 3.8+ in engineering/physics/math....they are probably near a 140+ IQ"
that's bull*****, sorry</p>
<p>Perhaps. The only person I know with anything near a 3.8 in mechanical engineering at my school got a 38 on the MCATs (which is certainly very high up on the IQ charts). And I'm not at a flagship school or anything.</p>
<p>A 3.8 in engineering at something like Cal easily correlates to an IQ like that.</p>