Cal people stuck up!

<p>Speaking from purely anecdotal experience of my highschool class (one of the better publics in Cali), it seemed like UCLA/Cal undergrads are about on par and USC a slight level lower. There were a lot of smart kids that ended going to SC, don’t get me wrong, but a hell of a lot more question marks and huh?!s.</p>

<p>I looked up the statistics and they are as follows.</p>

<p>USC: (only) 49% 3.75 unweighted GPA+
1910-2210</p>

<p>UCLA: 93% (holy ****) 3.75+
1750-2130</p>

<p>Berkeley: 81% 3.75+
1840-2230</p>

<p>Looking at raw numbers alone, Cal appears to clearly be the most difficult to gain entrance (although in context with the rest of the universities in America, these 3 are as close as you can really get)- and I believe the UC’s whose selection criteria aimed at granting opportunities statewide by emphasizing class rank and academics in context probably accounts for the low 25% percentile and large range of scores.</p>

<p>USC and UCLA seem to be diametrically opposed statistically… it’s quite interesting to note the high sat/low gpa and low sat/high gpa dichotomy.</p>

<p>Well, I won’t say I read every post in this thread, but just based on skimming… I feel like most people in this thread are stereotyping Berkeley. I am happy I actually went and experienced Berkeley for myself before believing what everyone said on college confidential.</p>

<p>I absolutely love Berkeley and I am so happy I came here. With that being said, when I originally got accepted to Berkeley, it was not even a consideration for me especially after getting into UPenn. I read posts around college confidential and basically wrote off Cal as a choice, but hey they offered me a free plane ticket to go up to visit, so I decided to check it out. I guess after that it was history. I decided Berkeley was the school for me and passed up great offers from other schools to attend Berkeley. </p>

<p>I actually did get to an ivy-league and I still chose Berkeley over it. Why? Because there is no place like Berkeley! I love the city, I love culture, and absolutely love the people. I have made some of the best friends there and I can’t wait to go back. </p>

<p>To say that everyone who goes to Berkeley is stuck up is entirely wrong. I think you can find stuck up people at any top school. Sure there are competitive people at Berkeley, but that is a small minority. I’m not sure if it’s because I’m not Pre-Haas/ Engineering that I haven’t experienced the “stuck-up” people of Berkeley, but I can say I have met plenty of humble, amazingly talented people at Berkeley.</p>

<p>I had a great freshman year at Cal and wasn’t killed by the courses. I mean my GPA isn’t that great (3.5), but considering I was still active in a club on campus and had plenty of time to go out often, I think I fared well.</p>

<p>Basically what I’m getting at is Berkeley is the type of school that isn’t going to spoon-feed you. Berkeley is what you make of it. If you want to sit around and complain about stuck up-people, it’s probably because you haven’t immersed yourself in the great opportunities Berkeley has to offer. I think you attract the type of person that you portray to others, so perhaps if you are stuck-up yourself, you probably encounter plenty of other stuck up individuals. But hey, that’s just my perspective.</p>

<p>Overall, I think it’s extremely ignorant to categorize or stereotype any school, especially one as large as Berkeley. There are so many students at Berkeley that there is no possibility that everyone is stuck up. You can only be friends with so many people out of 25,000 undergraduates, so find the good ones and stick with them. I seem to think there are plenty more “good” people than not. I’m not saying you won’t run into stuck-up people because I surely did my freshman year. I was actually rushing a professional fraternity and half-way through I realized that this group of students weren’t my type of people and I ended up dropping out and joining a different accounting club that had more like-minded people. It’s really just who you choose to associate yourself with.</p>

<p>Every single person I’ve met at Cal is extraordinarily arrogant. It’s annoying… very annoying.</p>

<p>aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand here we go~</p>

<p>UCLA VS CAL
FINAL DESTINATION ONLY
NO ITEMS
5 STOCKS MATCH</p>

<p>GOGOGOGOGO</p>

<p>A lot of the Berkeley students on this forum seem to be very obnoxious, compared to those from other schools at least.</p>

<p>The cool kids don’t hang here. Don’t take this sample set as a true example of the rest of the Berkeley population. Most people I know are reasonable and have interesting lives.</p>

<p>Perfect response to OP:</p>

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<p>Pro status</p>

<p>If you don’t like Berkeley, you shouldn’t be here. Period. There are simply too many people out there who would be willing to take your place and utilize the opportunities that this place has to offer (Too many or too few is a separate discussion).
I have no issues with people not liking Berkeley (lots don’t and I’m not surprised), be it students or applicants or otherwise, but remember at the end of the day, it wasn’t Berkeley that asked you to apply to it (Whether it was your safety or your reach) and no one forced it onto you.
Man up, and take responsibility for your choices (right or wrong).</p>

<p>I know several people who go to Cal, and a few of them - not all - do have a bit of that “I go to Cal and you don’t” attitude, but their competitiveness is just something those people have always had. I’m not sure if they’re that way because they consider themselves intelligent, or if they’re successful because of that kind of attitude, or what. But I do see a little bit of what the OP is talking about. However, I think we should draw a line between how Cal students act in the real world and the vibe they give off at school. Those people I mentioned are a bit snobby towards non-Berkeley students, but while at Berkeley, I don’t see as much of it. You can tell that many people in classes are intelligent, but not all of them try to rub it in others’ faces. It might just be that some are humbled by the fact of being at Cal. I’m not really sure how they’re thinking. Another interesting thing is that while people are still competitive, they don’t show it as much as they did back in high school. Probably afraid of failure, IMHO.</p>