Cal State schools purely numbers driven?

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<p>CSU are completely numbers driven. We went to SLO’s open house they said numbers make up about 85-90% of the admission decisions. Some girl behind us broke out in tears. It was crazy you had people coming from like Ohio to check out SLO.</p>

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<p>Calreader,</p>

<p>The only UC on her list is UCLA. She did have UCD and UCR but took them off. The thing is, it’s really hard to know if they’ll get any f. aid. They are right on the cusp (between 85-100k for a family of 6 with no assets and no equity), so UCs were iffy as far as affordability.</p>

<p>Her SAT math is low for many UCs, 530, but her CR and W of 600 each is competitive (though she does know that UCLA is a real reach).</p>

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<p>Have they run the financial aid estimators / net price calculators found on each school’s web site to get financial aid estimates? That may give a better idea than “apply and hope”.</p>

<p>UCLA: [Financial</a> Aid Estimator](<a href=“http://www.fao.ucla.edu/aid_estimator/]Financial”>http://www.fao.ucla.edu/aid_estimator/)
UCD: <a href=“http://financialaid.ucdavis.edu/AidEstimator/Disclaimer.aspx[/url]”>http://financialaid.ucdavis.edu/AidEstimator/Disclaimer.aspx&lt;/a&gt;
UCR: [Index[/url</a>]
CSUs: [url=<a href=“http://www.csumentor.edu/finaid/pais/]CSUMentor”>http://www.csumentor.edu/finaid/pais/]CSUMentor</a> - Financial Aid - PAIS](<a href=“http://vcsaweb.ucr.edu/FinAidManualCalculator/]Index[/url”>http://vcsaweb.ucr.edu/FinAidManualCalculator/)</p>

<p>I did try the UCR one with $100,000 income from two married parents, $12,000 in income tax, and $0 in other categories for a 6 person family with 1 in college, and it came up with $12,568 EFC, $6,090 student loan and work earnings, and $9,525 in financial aid grants (total net price of $18,658 from EFC and student loan and work earnings).</p>

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<p>ucb,</p>

<p>The family consulted with a friend of mine who worked in f. aid at a major univ. for many years. Because of the tenuous nature of f. aid in a broke state, and given that the dad was out of work part of the year but now has a good paying job, my friend wasn’t sure they would qualify for anything, particularly in subsequent years, but didn’t want to discourage them because she truly wasn’t sure what the final numbers will be and what will be there next fall for in state students.</p>

<p>Your numbers look encouraging. I think the key is that, while the income itself looks good (for now), with no savings and a family of 6 with two in college, that income just won’t go too far. It will all come down to the FAFSA, tax returns, and what’s available in grant money next year.</p>

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<p>That’s the beauty of our (irresponsible) legislature. The grant money will continue to flow, regardless of whether the income exists to pay for it.</p>

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<p>Voters who voted in various constraints on the budget (usually in terms of cutting or limiting taxes while mandating spending; the passage of propositions 30 and 36 recently were exceptions) also bear part of the blame for irresponsibility.</p>

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<p>Very much like most Canadian schools not called UBC.</p>

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<p>IMHO California’s education system began faltering with the passage of Proposition 13. And today’s children/students are paying dearly for it.</p>

<p>Oregon had to jump on the bandwagon and Measure 5 was the death knell for education here. I wonder if the state will ever be able to pick up the pieces.</p>

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This is a political comment. This comment needs to be removed. Stop writing BS on CC.</p>