@JenJenJenJen I’d love to be able to wear @MotherOfDragons heels, but I’m old enough to know better!
You know, @dragonmom, there are so many iterations of dragon/mom types of screennames here, it really makes me reevaluate my own. Maybe I should start all over and register myself as MotherofMotherofDragons. Or GrandmotherofDragons!
And to stay relevant to the thread, my daughter only applied out-of-state. She’ll be attending Colorado College (landlocked state!) next year.
@JenJenJenJen how about BFFMOD 
My CA son was accepted last year to UCSC, CSUF, Chico, ASU and University of Arizona. He was denied from UCI, Davis, UCR, UCSB and Cal Poly. U of A gave him a merit scholarship, bringing it close to UCSC in price, and was a better cultural fit (he leans conservative/libertarian rather than liberal, and prefers a more urban environment). It was a good choice for him. I have been very impressed with the advising he has received, ease in switching majors, and variety of programs offered. There are many students from our area who attend U of A; my son is always giving them rides home on holidays. He is planning to rent a furnished apartment with friends next year for less than $400 each including utilities (try getting that in CA!).
i really wish I would qualify as dragongrsndmim of dragons, , but my kids haven’t reproduced…
YES @MotherOfDragons I ACCEPT!!
Oops, what did I do wrong?
The amount of UC waitlisting and heartbreak at my D17’s school was really intimidating. there are around 125 kids in her year and I’d say maybe 20 are going to California schools, the rest are going out of state. What will be interesting will be to see if those UCs (the top tier ones) accepted kids from OOS with the same stats and ECs and whatnot, perhaps due to the differential tuition. I hope those proposed caps kick in soon.
I am afraid the OP’s statement is not true. There are a lot of college-bounding kids in CA (>10% relative to the entire US), whereas the number of colleges and their capacities in CA is relatively scare (< 10% relative to the entire US).
Born in the USA, multi-racial x 3. Grandparents are Catholic, Jewish and Buddhist. Kids are exposed to and embrace their diverse heritage. Their So Cal high school is extremely diverse with more mixed race than single race kids. Being invited to university “cultural weekends” makes them feel singled out which isn’t what they want.
Colleges may be diverse in population but you have to look at the mindset of the surrounding community where you are going to live, shop, dine, etc. This isn’t a red or blue issue. It is a humanity issue.
Would non-black students be welcome at those schools?
BTW - both of my kids left California to go to college.
The attitude of Californians considering the rest of flyover country backward, racist, Luddites, etc. is nothing new. It’s been that way for 2 generations. Take it from someone whose family migrated to Marin county back in those days. In the '60’s + 70’s that attitude had some justification. California used to have the best public schools in the country. Community colleges were free, the CSU’s and UC’s were cheap, good, and accessible. Well paying jobs were plentiful. You could actually get somewhere on the freeways quickly, and a great vacation was a short drive away to some of the most beautiful places in the world. Water didn’t even have meters in many areas.
Unfortunately for California, and fortunately for the rest of the country, none of that, (apart from the pretty central coast and national parks) is true anymore. Attitudes have not caught up with reality on the left coast.
I guess y’all have been reading all those news articles about how minorities and non- binary folks have been hounded and hassled at colleges in the Midwest and South. No? Yeah, neither have I.
Seems that while this question is asked or assumed with respect to schools with ~80+% black enrollments, it does not get asked with respect to non-white students at schools with ~80+% white enrollments like Alabama, Clemson, Mississippi, South Carolina, Iowa State, Missouri, etc…
Does diverse just mean less white?
How few whites is diverse enough?
Is Caltech diverse?
Or UC Merced?
What’s wrong with Clemson?
The question was asked why more California kids aren’t branching out to other parts of the country, other than Arizona, Washington, and Oregon, for college. Many of us have tried to earnestly answer the question about why our kids won’t consider fly over states and our kids, and the parents by extension, have been repeatedly mocked in this thread. Why ask the question if you’re just going to make fun of the answer?
The latter schools are tasked with educating everyone, so there’s no reason for whites to resent non-whites for attending. Of course some students will have their biases against other races and ethnicities, but that won’t be because they think their school should be primarily white.
The HBCUs were created with the principal mission of educating blacks, so it’s easy to see why some students and staff might resent whites for invading their turf. I’d think one of the reasons black students attend HBCUs is because they want to get away from racial issues between blacks and whites while at school. With more whites around, the greater the chance those racial issues will crop up.
@simba9 said “The HBCUs were created with the principal mission of educating blacks, so it’s easy to see why some students and staff might resent whites for invading their turf.”
Wow! That never crossed my mind, and I would not expect my son to be resented if he had chosen a HBC. But, dang, not really interested in a conversation about all that.
Well, maybe we are getting a little tired of sitting here in flyover country, continually mocked as moronic xenophobic Nazis (e.g.,Cam the Midwesterner on “Modern Family”…endless jokes about his love of his barnyard animals & ridiculous relatives)…Yeah, WE are the clueless idiots to be shunned, meanwhile those enlightened sophisticates in Berkeley are apparently unaware of the irony of lighting fires and preventing a person from speaking at the epicenter of the Free Speech Movement. Right, THEY are the tolerant, open-minded masters of diversity, and we are the knuckle-draggers to be avoided at all costs. Got it.