can anyone decipher this - re: Auburn scholarships

<p>i don't get this. they accept weighted GPA as long as it is calculated on a 4.0 scale? does this refer to GPA systems where honors is given 4.1 and Ap is given 4.3 (as an example)?</p>

<p>i thought a GPA that was base on a 4.0 scale would just be an unweighted GPA.</p>

<p>???</p>

<p>How does Auburn calculate high school GPA for the purpose of awarding scholarships to incoming freshmen?</p>

<p>Auburn accepts the high school GPA as indicated on the official transcript from the high school, provided the GPA is calculated on a 4.0 scale. Auburn does not automatically recalculate all high schools GPAs. Transcripts with GPAs weighted at the high school level are accepted and encouraged. High school transcripts are evaluated by Admissions Processing. If the GPA on the transcript is calculated on a 4.0 scale, Admissions Processing records the GPA as it appears on the transcript. If both a weighted and unweighted GPA are provided on a 4.0 scale, Auburn will record the weighted GPA. If the GPA is provided as a numerical percentage on a 100 point scale or as a number on any other scale, Admissions Processing will re-calculate the GPA as an unweighted GPA on a 4.0 scale.</p>

<p>If a student attends a high school whose system does not provide a weighted GPA on a 4.0 scale, the high school may include a cover letter with the transcript indicating the student's weighted GPA. For more information regarding high school GPA, please contact the Office of Admissions and Recruitment by phone at (334) 844-6425 or by e-mail at</p>

<p>This makes sense to me. Many schools do this–gives an extra point for honors/AP/IB classes.</p>

<p>If you got all As in your classes and none of them got extra weight because they were not AP/IB/Honors–your GPA would be 4.0.</p>

<p>If you got all As in your classes and all of them were honors, etc. classes that are graded on a 5.0 scale instead of a 4.0 scale (an A is worth 5.0 points rather than 4.0 points), then your GPA would be 5.0.</p>

<p>So the school is on a 4.0 system, but if you take classes that get extra weight and your GPA would be above 4.0.</p>

<p>at our school the max is 7.0, so NOT a 4.0 scale.</p>

<p>to me, it seems kind of silly that so many schools have so many different weighting systems. why don’t they just have one system that everyone follows?</p>

<p>Most colleges recalculate gpa using their own standards.</p>

<p>7.0?? What the heck??!!! Auburn will probably recalculate your GPA to put it on the 4.0 + weighted scale so that they can compare it to others.</p>

<p>I don’t think it makes sense. There are a jillion ways to weight classes, but I don’t know any system where the top grade in a weighted system is 4.0. Nor does it seem fair to me that a system that has both weighted and unweighted GPAs on a 0-100 (to 110 weighted) only records the unweighted GPA. Luckily Auburn isn’t on our list!</p>

<p>Auburn will record the weighted GPA if it is available and so GPAs above 4.0 are possible in their system, I believe. What doesn’t seem fair is that if your school does the 0-100 thing, they won’t recalculate to give you any weighting credit. </p>

<p>I’m guessing that the schools in the state have adapted their GPA reporting procedures to fit the needs of the major colleges in the state. Our local high school reports a 10-12 Academic GPA in addition to a total GPA and will only weight 4 classes a semester. Why? That’s what the state colleges want to see.</p>

<p>Okay - just to make sure I understand…</p>

<p>My son’s school used a 4.0 scale, but adds extra points for pre-AP/AP classes. </p>

<p>So - if my son’s WEIGHTED GPA is 3.96…is THAT the GPA that Auburn would use for it’s scholarship decisions?</p>

<p>my understanding of auburn and ua and uab is that if you put both gpa (weighted and unweighted ) on the transcript they will take the higher. they do not recalculate any gpa. so if you have 3.96 on the transcript they take that. when we went to uab on a tour, one program my son was interested in had an average gpa of 4.2 (so above 4 isnt a problem)for the admitted students…so as long as your gpa wasnt 7 or 98, they take it. if an unweighted gpa is on the transcript alone, that is what they use…they dont change it for honors ap etc. if your school uses the 7, i would call and ask how that is dealt with</p>

<p>To Grcxx3–yes, that is what Auburn seems to be saying.</p>

<p>And just to make sure *I *understand - say I go to a different school from Grcxx3 (post #8), take the same courses, get the same unweighted grades, but my school uses a different weighting system that gives me a WEIGHTED GPA of 3.99 compared to Grcxx3’s 3.96. Does Auburn say I’m a better student? That doesn’t seem right to me.</p>

<p>^^^that’s how i understand it, a number of schools that my son is looking at say they dont recalculate they take what is on the transcript (i have called some of them and they suggest having the weighted put on the transcript although my son’s school doesnt automatically do that…i will have to request it). and that isnt just alabama schools.</p>

<p>^^^
Thanks everyone.</p>

<p>parent56 - I am glad to see that you say YOU have called various schools asking questions. I keep having people tell me that my son should be doing ALL the phone calls, contacts, etc. But there are just some things he just doesn’t THINK about (like logistics of having his overseas transcript sent) and I felt it was just more efficient for me to do it. So far, all the adcom folks I have talked to have been incredibly helpful.</p>

<p>grcxx3, i have taken responsibility for any financial type questions as my son would have no clue regarding any specifics or follow up questions that might arise if he discussed (gpa fell into financial due to automatic merit awards at alabama schools)…and i think so far the financial aid/admissions people havent had any problem with it being a parent calling (in fact next week i plan to call the schools on his list about whether we have to file fafsa or not…we wont qualify for financial need aid but some still may want it to be considered for merit and i need to know that). BUT setting up interviews, asking academic type questions, thank yous following meetings etc have been his job.</p>

<p>^^^
That is pretty much the approach I have taken. I have called about the overseas transcripts because I wanted to know if any additional information would be needed/required before I asked to have the transcripts sent. I also asked how his academic record would be viewed (looking at both transcripts or just the transfer evaluation done at the current school) because there are some differences.</p>

<p>He can handle the transcript from his current school!</p>

<p>parent56 - do you know if those scholarships at Auburn (like the Academic one - Charter/Heritage/Presidential) are completely merit-based or is there a need-based component? In other words - if you qualify for one of the scholarships - is it an automatic thing, or could they NOT give you the scholarship if you are not in need of financial assistance?</p>

<p>We are in the same situation as you and probably won’t qualify for any aid, but DH was concerned that merit-based scholarships might also be impacted by that.</p>

<p>here is a link: (for instate)
[Office</a> of University Scholarships - Freshman Resident Scholarships](<a href=“http://www.auburn.edu/scholarship/resident-freshman-scholarships.html#leadership]Office”>http://www.auburn.edu/scholarship/resident-freshman-scholarships.html#leadership) </p>

<p>most are based on gpa and test scores but some do mention special consideration for 1st generation college and one mentions financial need. but the priority deadline is really important for these to be automatic!
also check UA and UAB they also have automatic merit scholarships based on gpa and test scores) uab actually has a full ride with a act of 33) not just tuition</p>

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<p>Auburn says that it doesn’t AUTOMATICALLY recalculate, which implies that it might selectively recalculate based on certain circumstances. A letter explaining the weighting process and why you think it might not put your kid on a level playing field might tip them to recalculate.</p>

<p>Most schools use the “honors & AP classes are graded on a 5.0” scale when weighting. It would be weird to find a school that only gave a 0.9 point boost. Where a difference might occur is how many and which classes the high schools are willing to weight. At our school, only a max of 4 classes a semester are weighted. Other schools may weight all periods. That could lead to a difference in GPA based on the vagaries of the weighting process.</p>

<p>I suppose Auburn has decided that righting the differences doesn’t provide enough benefits compared to the work of recalculating all GPAs. I know that at the UCs, the UC system recalculates a UC GPA on everyone’s application.</p>

<p>^^^
Thanks. Auburn was on the “early” list my DS had, then it went away for awhile…now it’s back for some reason. Good thing it’s still early!</p>

<p>lol grcxx3… early list,… most recent list, old list, “you dont know what you are talking about list”, “that’s your list not mine” list… i have no idea which list he is working off now! last i saw there were about 14 schools on it… small lac, large research, in state ,oos, I’m just thankful that so far the ones we went to visit are still on the list.</p>