<p>I just wanted to know because i know people in my class who cheat their way through high school and plan on cheating on their college application.</p>
<p>when i say lying i mean putting down Officer positions in EC's that you were a part of but not an officer</p>
<p>ex: Vice-President of Spanish Club (but you weren't)</p>
<p>Very rarely will a college check minor officer positions. If you say you're class president or valedictorian and it isn't mentioned in a rec or align itself with your transcript, then they'll find out.</p>
<p>But, truth be told, Vice-President of the Spanish Club isn't going to win you any major points in college admissions, regardless.</p>
<p>As ses said, minor positions don't really matter. Furthermore most colleges (outside the 100 or so most in demand) accept most if not all of their applicants. So ECs hardly matter at all for most schools. </p>
<p>nd at large schools that do care (such as the UC system) they have instituted a random verification policy in which you'll have to prove what you said is true if you are audited.</p>
<p>In the end its kinda ironic. Your friends are going to get into the colleges they applied to since most are not very selective, then they will tell themselves they got in because of their cheating on the recs.</p>
<p>that is ironic, I am a liar and cheated, I am sooo proud!!!</p>
<p>Get in with the person who's running the club so you can have them sign off on something even if its a lie.. and if you audited. </p>
<p>Oh, and you can exaggerate your community service hours if their not specifically recorded, because who really knows how many hours you worked, I mean if its a change from about 10 to 50 thats much, but 10 hours to 15 would probably be fine...</p>
<p>Don't mean to encourage anything, just what you could get away with.</p>
<p>hoping this is a simple case of me missing the humor in these posts, cause i am feeling APPALLED - and that isn't a great feeling</p>
<p>they probably wont notice. colleges really only check big awards like intel or national awards. vp of spanish club is really common and isn't going to impress anyone so don't worry about those cheaters.</p>
<p>Anything that is a major hook for getting into college is probably going to also be mentioned in your recommendations. It could raise a red flag if it isn't mentioned, and colleges may seek verifying information.</p>
<p>However, the examples given here don't seem to rise to that level. Being vice president of spanish club is not such a strong signifier of leadership that one would expect your teachers to mention your leadership skills, but neither is it the kind of thing that is going to boost your application status.</p>
<p>I heard that one person from my school lied on their application to a very very very very selective college. I heard she said she was the VP of the school and a bunch of other stuff. I even heard that she stole data as her own for a science competition which she did very well in.</p>
<p>Now I want to emphasize that this is what I heard. They are rumors. I cannot verify or refute any of these. Chances are if you lie, no one can verify that you lied on your application and you'll get away with it. However, your peers will all hate you.</p>
<p>hmmm... question begs to be asked - WHY would anyone lie about it then?</p>
<p>colleges need to run the ECs by school councellors for verification - the lack of accountability is disheartening for those of us busting our asses trying to juggle academics and all the EC responsibilities</p>
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<p>true dat, true dat</p>
<p>we have a new thread on this topic every week.</p>
<p>Whats sad is that they can lie in school and on college applications but this will eventually become a habit. Habits are hard to change and have an impact on your life not just the admission process.</p>
<p>what Hoedown said is right on. Colleges wont trouble themselves with minor details because really being VP of spanish club won't get you in nor will it get you rejected if you dont have it. However, lets say you put down your an eagle scout, had an internship at company X, did habitat for humanity, or even went to Africa to help teach which are all significant extracurriculars, then they may want some proof (maybe writing a detailed essay about it/sending in a rec).</p>
<p>Yes, colleges have an all-seeing-eye and knows if as much as a WORD is not completely genuine. They all practice magic, you see, only they don't tell us because it's all part of the "college admission mystery". XD</p>
<p>Seriously though, they don't. But like countless people above me have already said, the things they CAN lie about and not get caught, aren't things that are so major as to have a significant impact on anyone's application. Still, lying on your app.? Tsk, tsk. This country needs a moral boost! Go Third Great Awakening! :D</p>
<p>Just don't lie. Don't even stretch the truth. Say what it really is.</p>
<p>Or else, if they find out...</p>
<p>you will not go to college ever in your life.</p>
<p>Or you can go to some crappy community college which I'm sure you don't want that.</p>
<p>lol, my parents always said that.</p>
<p>Its all chance really.</p>