Can I be penalized for not sending in an SAT II score when the school requires ALL scores?

<p>For ED, I applied to a top 20 school that gives students the choice of submitting either the ACT with writing or the SAT with SAT IIs. I took both the ACT, SAT, and a few SAT IIs. I sent in all of my SAT scores and my ACT scores, but for the SAT II, I was kind of iffy. Two of my scores were relatively high, but the third was about a good 100 points lower than the other two. When I first read about my school's policies, I assumed that because I sent in my ACT, I could use score choice for my SAT IIs and send in just my two higher scores, but now that I read them again, it seems as though if I chose to send in any SAT II scores at all in addition to my ACT, I must send ALL of my scores, even though I already meet the minimal testing requirements.</p>

<p>How badly could this affect my admission chances? If I'm accepted to the school, could they possibly rescind my offer if they find out? I know it's my own fault for being negligent about contacting the admissions office to clarify the situation, but now I'm really worried. :(</p>

<p>It depends on the school. Stanford requires all score but subject test can be score choice.</p>

<p>I believe Penn’s policy is that if SAT IIs are sent, SAT I also needs to be sent.</p>

<p>There seems to be honor code involved here since no one seems to be sure whether collegeboard reports on students who don’t follow the specific college policies.</p>

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That would be correct. The reverse is also true; if SAT I is sent, all SAT II’s must be sent. Cornell and Yale are the same. Other colleges may have different requirements; you should check with each on your list.

[url=<a href=“http://yaledailynews.com/blog/2009/01/16/no-choice-on-scores/]Here[/url”>No choice on scores - Yale Daily News]Here[/url</a>] is what Yale Dean of Undergraduate Admissions Jeff Brenzel had to say:

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<p>User @LyricalLacuna reported on what her father’s take on this was. He specifically referred to Yale, but I think he says it very well regardless of which school you’re referring to:

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<p>…“but now that I read them again, it seems as though if I chose to send in any SAT II scores at all in addition to my ACT, I must send ALL of my scores, even though I already meet the minimal testing requirements.”</p>

<p>Call them!! Or, don’t submit any SAT2s just your SAT1 and ACT with Writing if that is allowable?</p>

<p>It sounds like you are referring to Upenn. If so, it requires you to submit all scores of tests you have actually taken: SAT, subject tests, and ACT. As to what could possibly happen if Penn learns you withheld scores, it could legally deny admission or rescind an admission given for failure to follow its applicaitons rules. As to whether Penn will learn that you withheld score, you need to check with your high school because many put all your scores on the offical transcript sent to colleges and thus, if yours does, then withholding some scores when you order offical scores from College Board would accomplish nothing except to prove you attempted to withhold scores. As to what Penn and other colleges have actually done to those who do not conform to their “all scores” policy then be aware that to date, five years after those policies were adopted, there has not yet beern one reported case of an applicant being penalized for not sending all scores.</p>

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<p>I think Penn’s policy is slightly different. They say that if you sent ACT you can stop there but if you want to SAT II and have taken SAT I it can’t be excluded. I am not sure any other top 10 school requires one to send SAT I just because they intend to send SAT II with ACT.</p>

<p>OTOH, most of them require the SAT IIs if you take SAT even if they allow ACT with nothing more needed. </p>

<p>Penn requires everything: see <a href=“http://www.admissions.upenn.edu/apply/freshman-admission/required-testing”>http://www.admissions.upenn.edu/apply/freshman-admission/required-testing&lt;/a&gt; and answer to the next to last question on sending subject test scores if you have submitted ACT here <a href=“http://www.admissions.upenn.edu/apply/freshman-admission/testing-faq”>http://www.admissions.upenn.edu/apply/freshman-admission/testing-faq&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

<p>@drusba Looks like I am behind on my knowledge base. This was not the rule in the past (2 years ago) when they asked for ACT and required all of SAT scores if someone chose to submit only subject scores with ACT.</p>

<p>I am guessing that the new score choice is triggering the schools to ask for the entire testing history.</p>

<p>I am actually referring not to UPenn but to Duke. The only difference between them I believe is that UPenn requires all SAT and ACT scores if an applicant has taken both while Duke allows the applicant to choose. However, if the applicant sends in even one other score from the other category, they must send the rest as well, I think.</p>

<p>I’m really worried now. Should I try and contact the admissions office? Results come out in a matter of days, and it’s highly likely that my application has already been read. It’s not as though I was trying to lie when I didnt send in that one score; I was just naive and somewhat unsure of the school’s testing policies (which shows lack of responsibility either way, I know) . Would it be better to admit to my mistake to admissions or to lie low and wait?</p>

<p><a href=“Apply - Duke Undergraduate Admissions”>Apply - Duke Undergraduate Admissions;

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<p>@texaspg‌ “You must send your full record of scores for whichever test type(s) you choose to report.”</p>

<p>That’s the part I just kind of breezed over before and didn’t fully take in until just recently. :(</p>

<p>Does anyone have any advice for how I should deal with this? I already know I screwed up as the last dozen or so posts have confirmed, but any advice as to what I should do? :/</p>

<p>Bump. Help please? My mom and I got into a pretty heated argument about what I should do about this issue. I want to try to salvage the situation and possibly contact admissions if it’s not too late, but she keeps insisting that it’s not a big deal and to let it go. She also keeps interpreting what Duke’s site says differently and believes that I don’t have an obligation to send in my third SAT II score. I don’t know what to do at this point.</p>

<p>Your instinct is right. Send the SAT II score. </p>

<p>@3girls3cats So should I contact admissions and try to explain to the best of my ability (that both me and my family interpreted the website incorrectly and did not realize our mistake until now) or just send the score…? If I do either of the above, would this negatively impact my results (even if they’ve already decided)?</p>

<p>This is just my opinion and I don’t know for sure what’s right. My reading of the policy is that once you choose to send any type of SAT score (I or II), you must send all of the test results. On the other hand, you could have chosen to send only your ACT scores and omit any mention of SAT testing. So I’m revising my advice. I would contact your admissions officer and explain the misunderstanding. I expect that you are not the first person to ask about this and given that you can rely solely on the ACT score, you may not have to send the SAT II score at all.</p>

<p>@Ninjanonymous, I’m usually a real stickler on this issue, and I’ve only read one thing on Duke’s web site (and there might be additional information elsewhere), but I have to admit that Duke didn’t make it especially clear. </p>

<p>I don’t think you are in trouble, especially since you can’t be the first to have some confusion about this. My suggestion, since it’s so late in the process, is to wait for the decision. If accepted or deferred, call the AO (btw, where’s the GC in all of this?) and explain it; they will not rescind you for this but it’s best to be transparent. If you’re denied, I’m sorry. </p>

<p>Good luck. </p>

<p>I also would call and ask. FWIW, I interpreted Duke’s requirement as you did, even though I knew you said it was wrong. Maybe there’s hope we are reading it correctly?</p>

<p>Don’t muddy the water so late in the game. Wait for your result and then send the scores.</p>

<p>Even if you get in, it is best to keep your track record clean by just triggering the whole record whether you talk to them or not.</p>