Can I transfer to a community college (or even state school) with about a 2.0 gpa?

<p>Hey guys, please hear me out.</p>

<p>I am an international business major finishing my fall sophmore semester. I go to a top 50 school currently with a 2.0 gpa. By next semester, I should have a 2.1 maybe even 2.2 gpa. My gpa in high school was a around a 3.86, taking many AP and college classes since sophmore year, and I was involved in many clubs and activities and an ACT score of 28.</p>

<p>This school is actually a horror story for me, I need to get out of here before I lose my scholarships. I just can't do well at this school, no matter what I try. The administration is oppressive (refuses to help me, hangs up on the phone, doesn't return emails, gives me useless information just to get me out of there), the professors aren't good at teaching and don't care about how I'm doing and don't have any interest in helping me. I am stuck in a hell of a school that I feel it absolutely doesn't want to see me succeed at all. Since I can't throw my time here away, I need to start fresh somewhere else and rebuild a good transcript to represent who I am really. But will colleges take me?</p>

<p>Just wondering to save me time and money, do you think I have a chance to get into a community college, SUNY school or a less known university to get a better gpa in? If I can graduate from there with a 3.5 gpa or even higher it would look much better than graduating with a 2.0 or 2.2 here, right? If I do apply to transfer, can I plead the school's admissions office to look at my high school transcript on the side, to get a better picture of me? Because honestly, my high school transcript represents me. I want to let them know that my college transcript resembles someone who is trying to survive alone and isolated thousands of miles away from home.</p>

<p>Also, I'm not sure how this works, but if get into the community college and I get my grades up in a years time and apply to transfer to a different university (so I can graduate there), how will that work? I'd be a junior if I do transfer to the community college, so I transfer again as a senior? I don't think they'd accept all my credits and there would be some classes I haven't taken that is in their curriculum, so I probably wouldn't graduate on time. Is it possibly to transfer as a junior and then again as a senior?</p>

<p>Thanks guys!</p>

<p>You will probably have to include your college transcript, although if you explain your situation, your high school transcript will probably be considered as well. </p>

<p>Still, if that’s the case, you may have to retake SAT exams and what not… isn’t there any way you could possibly repair the GPA? If the professors were really that bad, wouldn’t all your peers be in the same boat as you? Just wondering…</p>

<p>I feel like my peers are all geniuses. I took AP, Syracuse University, Dowling College and Adelphi University classes in high school got A’s and B’s. But I got those grades because I applied myself. </p>

<p>Here, I try to my ability, but I seem to always get knocked down to my feet. While, my peers don’t even need to do much work and get good grades. So far, I got a mixture of A’s, B’s and C’s, 1 W, 1 WP, 1 WF, and 2 F’s.</p>

<p>This school is also heavily Christian (it’s religious), which I came to thinking it would be a good idea for a friendly environment… that was a big mistake…</p>

<p>I think at this point nothing can be repaired. I am absolutely miserable at this school and nothing will change that at this point.</p>

<p>My best bet is to get out of here ASAP and try to repair what I can to transfer again to a different school (state school or uni). </p>

<p>Is it possible to transfer to a community college as a junior, get a high gpa 3.5 after one year (so I can transfer to a university), and transfer to another university as a senior and graduate on time? Or would I have to do one more year to finish all my requirements for my major?</p>

<p>You need to face reality, you cannot erase your college record, what you do stays with you. Perhaps you should work at retaking courses you did poorly in, in order to bring up your gpa.</p>

<p>Wherever you apply to college CC, SUNY, whatever, you will be REQUIRED to send all transcripts to colleges that you have previously attended. This is where they check your record:</p>

<p>[National</a> Student Clearinghouse: Degree verification & enrollment verification](<a href=“http://www.studentclearinghouse.org/]National”>http://www.studentclearinghouse.org/)</p>

<p>To be honest with you I think you best bet is going to a community college for a semester getting a 3.6 or something and apply to a suny. I’m pretty sure Purchase College would take you lol. I would say apply for the hell of it but do not continue at your current university next semester go to a community college and try to have a bit of a relaxing semester while thriving.</p>

<p>its not all over for you! Don’t count out anything. I had a 3.1 a couple semesters ago after screwing up a semester. I’ve just been pulling up my gpa getting A’s and B’s, got accepted into Bing, SB, Rutgers and a couple others with a 3.37 with an upward trend as an out of state student. You might be able to clear out those Fs by retaking the classes, they usually replace the grade if you get a better one after retaking. Just keep trying keep improving there is no doubt you’ll transfer. </p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/transfer-students/1227497-cuny-suny-transfer-decisions-4.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/transfer-students/1227497-cuny-suny-transfer-decisions-4.html&lt;/a&gt; check out that thread the guy soccer102592 got into oswego after have a 1.96 at a university in PA and hes back at a CC got a 3.26.</p>

<p>his gpa equaled out to a 2.35</p>

<p>Thanks for the reply!</p>

<p>Well I’m in finals week starting tomorrow of my fall semester, and I already picked out my classes and my account has been charged (but without the fin aid showing yet) for the spring.</p>

<p>Did you mean transfer to community college spring semester? Is that even possible? If anything I would stick one more semester out here since a balance is already showing on my account (not sure if that matters). I thought the deadline for spring would of well passed already.</p>

<p>Entomon,</p>

<p>I realize that I will have to show my college transcript to them no matter what. I’m not asking if there’s anyway to hide it from them, I’m moreso asking if I can even transfer to a community college as a junior to get my gpa to a 3.5 or higher and transfer again as a senior to a state school or another university (and also if I can plead them to look at my high school gpa as well).</p>

<p>Can anyone help? Thanks!</p>

<p>Are you an international student studying business, or a US student studying international business? If you are an international student, it would be almost impossible for you to complete the paperwork required to transfer your I-20, etc. before second semester. Your choices are:
a) Stay where you are for another semester while you apply for transfer.
b) Take a leave of absence, go home, and apply for transfer from there.</p>

<p>If you are a US student you have a lot more options, including:
a) Take a semester or year off while you figure out what you want to do with your life, and sort out what went wrong at this first college. You might even find that you want to go back to this college and finish up!
b) Transferring to your local community college for second semester this year, and attending long enough to complete an AA/AS so that you can transfer into a home-state public U that has an articulation agreement with that CC.</p>

<p>If you do decide to stay for one more semester, you need to be more pro-active about your studies. Start by haunting your professors’ offices during their office hours, and by utilizing the campus tutoring services, writing center, etc. You still may be able to turn this whole thing around.</p>

<p>Good luck!</p>

<p>I am a US student studying international business. </p>

<p>Would I need to complete an AA/AS in order to transfer to a state school/private university? And would I need to transfer next semester in order to do an AA/AS? You said ‘long enough.’</p>

<p>I was thinking to transfer to a CC next fall semester (because I’ve already selected classes and everything, and isn’t it a little late to transfer to a CC for a semester starting in a few weeks?), complete a year there, get a 3.5 or better, and at the end of my junior year transfer to a different state school/private uni, and graduate from there.</p>

<p>This may not be possible, but what would be my best course of action if I wanted to do that? Since you mentioned AA/AS, if I graduate with a, say, AS, what year would I transfer to if I get into a state school/private university? Would I have to start off as a freshman again at that school in order to get a BA?</p>

<p>Also, we all agree here that it would be much better to end up graduating from a state school/other university with a 3.6 rather than staying here and graduating with a 2.0, even a 3.0 if I’m lucky, right?</p>

<p>For someone looking to go into the business field, what would be the better option? Sorry for all the questions, I need to present it to my parents so I can answer all their questions. Because if they don’t realize the chances of me getting a job(all they care about- so they shouldn’t be against this) graduating from here are much lower than starting with a fresh gpa at another school and doing better, they will be against it.</p>

<p>Most community colleges have formal articulation agreements with at least one university. Usually this requires completing a full associates degree at the CC which guarantees that the student has covered the equivalent of the first two years of coursework that would be required by that particular degree program. If you fulfill the requirements of the articulation agreement with the GPA specified in that agreement (sometimes as low as 2.0) you are guaranteed a transfer space for the last two years at the participating college/university. Not knowing the CC you are looking at, or which courses that you have already taken that would qualify for transfer into a specific program that has an articulation agreement, I have no way to know whether or not you could complete an AA or AS in one semester or in one year. That’s why I wrote “long enough”.</p>

<p>If you intend to complete an associates degree in your current field of study, there isn’t much point in staying where you are, because it is possible that you could get to the CC and find out that you had more than fulfilled the requirements for an AA or AS. If you are changing fields, that would be another thing. </p>

<p>Given that your GPA is so low at your current university, it might be extremely difficult for you to transfer to a 4-year institution - hence the suggestion that you investigate articulation agreements between the CCs that interest you, and your state universities. But do pick up the phone, and call the 4-year places that you are considering, and speak directly with a transfer admissions officer. They will be able to tell you what your options are.</p>

<p>If you transfer in with an AA or AS, you can expect that you will need two years to finish your BA or BS. You won’t be doing a “junior year” at the CC. You will essentially be doing a second sophomore year.</p>

<p>Another variable to this giant mess is that I came to this school with 44 credits (from high school college accredited classes).</p>

<p>This school has been making me take a lot of general education classes so far (humanities, religion, ect and I still need a plenty more to take). Next semester here I’ll be taking art and Buddhism classes to satisfy my art and non-western GE. Needless to say if I stay here any longer I will have to take a lot of classes during my stay at the 4-year university (since none of this is relevant). Here’s a list of classes I took and passed for my major wise:</p>

<p>Introduction to business- took this in high school (satisfied a business class here)
Marketing- took this in high school (satisfied one marketing class here)
Business law- took this in high school (satisfied a business class here)
Financial accounting- took this in high school (satisfied financial accounting class here)
Micro/Macro- took this in high school (satisfied macro class here)</p>

<p>College classes:
Math 214- Business Calculus
Ba 212- Business computing application (functions in excel useful in the field)
Econ 210- Micro </p>

<p>The rest have been all GE’s. Also I came in as a Freshman with all my language classes satisfied (something I’m sure all universities require students to take).</p>

<p>Knowing this, can you give me a little more guidance please on where I will stand if I transfer? Thanks!</p>

<p>Also, if I transfer to a community college, the closest one to me would be Suffolk:</p>

<p>[Suffolk</a> County Community College - Home](<a href=“http://www.sunysuffolk.edu/index.asp]Suffolk”>Welcome to Suffolk County Community College - Home of the Sharks)</p>

<p>Also side question, but can I take off spring semester and transfer over to a community college over the summer? So basically I take off a semester and finish that semester over the summer so I can come in as a regular junior?</p>

<p>Pick up the phone tomorrow and call Suffolk. Ask whether they are still taking new students for the spring term. In my area the community colleges will enroll new students through at least the first week of classes, but I don’t know anything about the CCs in New York State.</p>

<p>When you’re done speaking with them, call the SUNY that you are most interested in. Find out what you have to do to be able to transfer. Maybe they would take you now with your current grades. If so, find out if you can enroll for the spring, summer, or fall without having to attend a CC first. It could be that if you take the spring term off, you could start up at the SUNY in the summer term.</p>

<p>Wow thank you for all your help happymomof1! </p>

<p>I have one final question for you though. </p>

<p>My final question is something that probably should of been asked a while ago: I need to convince my mom (since she is paying) that transferring would be the better decision to make.</p>

<p>I just spoke with my mom, and told her about everything talked about here. She said she’d think about it, but it got pretty emotional.</p>

<p>But basically her point was it would be a big mistake to transfer. She thinks that name of the school is more important than grades, when looking for a job. I’m not sure if this is true or not, but she gave me an example.</p>

<p>She just went on a business trip to Costa Rica and spoke with a lot of girls (who said they were from California). She told them that I go to Pepperdine (and the predicament I’m in) and they all said according to her that employers will only really look at the name of the school. One had a son who went to a prestigious school and did pretty bad first year (like me), got better second year (like me) and by third year he was golden. My mom was using that to disway me transferring because she thinks as for as jobs are concerned gpa is trivial. </p>

<p>But I don’t think that’s true. I might of gotten lucky and my persistence with followups got me into this highly selective school, because my grades were minimum on what the university accepts. I think it would be logical to assume that a lot of people get into top schools that probably shouldn’t be there, hence them doing so poorly (am I one of them I don’t know).</p>

<p>But I’d like to hear your opinion on this. Is graduating from a top school with a, say, 2.3 gpa look better for employers than graduating from a lesser university (in prestige)/state school with a 3.5 or better? What should I say to her?</p>

<p>I was actually looking at an AA with Hofstra University that Suffolk has, its business division is apparently very good and its part time mba program is in the top 50 (not that it matters for me, just saying.)</p>

<p>Thank you so much!</p>