can people make up ECs?

<p>i was just wondering b/c i no a girl who ABSOLUTELY DID NOT participate in soccer and basketball, but then put down that she was a varsity athlete for all 4 years in high school. (she's like 5 ft tall. kinda hard to play basketball) but anyways, she had a 3.5 gpa, not a stellar gpa, but then got into ucla and berkeley just b/c she made up ecs.</p>

<p>question is, how do colleges really no if u participated in an ec or not. do u have to send in proof??</p>

<p>not a stellar sat score (oops)</p>

<p>it is unethical to LIE on your college apps (and in life, generally). And plus there is so much that goes into college admissions like grades, test scores, essays and recs that makes it unlikely that she got in ONLY b/c of her EC's. I mean, playing sports is a VERY VERY common EC so colleges would only care about the really good athlethes.</p>

<p>Isn't lying outright like that grounds for revoking admission if it's ever discovered? Not worth it if you ask me.</p>

<p>sorry, i didn't mean that she got in solely b/c she put down that she was an athlete. but how do colleges no for a fact? b/c i doubt it that every application is scrutinized to the point where they make sure that u had 8.25 hours of NHS hours.</p>

<p>Don't take the risk. Not that it's right to do so in the first place. Colleges check a certain percentage of applicant records. Some people get lucky and get away with the falsification temporarily. However, that application is going to follow that person along and in the future it may cause problems.</p>

<p>If you commit fraud and get away with it, YOUR SOUL WILL BURN IN HELL FOR ALL OF ETERNITY FOR DESTROYING THE LIFE OF AN HONEST AND HARDWORKING APPLICANT, WHOSE RIGHTFUL POSITION YOU STOLE, CURSED SPAWN OF DARKNESS! ARRRRRRRRRRGH!</p>

<p>(Sorry, j/k.)</p>

<p>But seriously, to state the obvious we can all agree that it's a pretty bad and risky thing to do; not worth it, since one would be almost literally dead if they find out.</p>

<p>Also here's an article:
College</a> Application Fraud On the Rise - MSN Encarta</p>

<p>please don't lie =D
they COULD try and verify
in fact, I'm sure everyone's heard the rumor that some colleges might peruse your facebook or myspace?</p>

<p><em>shivers</em></p>

<p>I'm sorry, and not to be mean but when you write "no", you mean "know", right? I'm an avid texter (2654 texts last month) and that still hurt my eyes to see know spelled like that.</p>

<p>Yes, she lied. No, you don't have to send in proof (otherwise, she would have been caught). But yes, getting caught is common. People CAN make up ECs, but they shouldn't. End of story.</p>

<p>LOL, msneicirenee^</p>

<p>if they check my facebook...oh god...:X</p>

<p>would they ever check hospital hours?</p>

<p>how do colleges check our facebook? don't they have to friend us?</p>

<p>Not always, there are some privacy settings that allow people in your network to see your profile. You can turn this setting off though.</p>

<p>y is everyone implying that i'm going to make up an ec?? and yes, no=know. it's shorter and to the point. lol. and for facebook, some people don't have the privacy setting on, so colleges r welcome to peruse it. i no that my at my friend's school, it's her dean's job to check all the students' facebook 24/7</p>

<p>Regardless of the ethical reasons or whatnot cheesy moral platitudes, I really doubt that lying helps you significantly in a college app in most cases...especially when it comes to EC's. But whatnot...</p>

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2654 texts last month

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Oh, I'd cap an "avid texter" at around 7000 per month...I know many 20,000 per month people/friends... ;)</p>

<p>I'm considered an "average" texter with around 2000 per month, and I spend total about less than 30 minutes a day intermittently and I type long sentences...no iPhone either. But I guess it's a difference in area and friends, and the people you know.</p>

<p>Lol, me too. My friends all have unlimited plans...</p>

<p>Anyway, it should also be noted that this can come back and haunt you. If it is ever discovered, consequences could include losing your degree from the university! And after paying lots of money and spending 4+ years....</p>

<p>Besides, the ECs that actually count can be easily verified, and if the ECs don't fit the candidate, then the adcoms can just google for example "Siemens winners 2008" and check.</p>

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would they ever check hospital hours?

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10 charrrrrrrrrrrrrrr</p>

<p>Not unless randomly selected or some kind of contradiction. They simply don't care.</p>

<p>Not all decent EC's are verifiable. </p>

<p>USNCO, USABO, USPhO, National Scioly Awards, or summer programs are not easily verifiable, and there are probably alot more. the only easily verifiable awards are the very big ones such as Siemens or Intel.</p>

<p>Why are there so many threads like this these months?</p>

<p>Why do you keep bumping them?</p>