<p>I had asked this question in the UIUC forum, too. The answers tended to confirm the thesis proferred by sakky in the CC thread I referred to, that 2nd options are practically nil , at least if you want to go w/ acctg or finance, which are sort of related to ENG in temperment. In the case of UIUC, unlike what sakky mentioned was the case at UCLA (there was no acctg major), there is indeed an acctg major, the 2nd best program in the nation according usnews, but it is virtually impossible to get into from an xfer engineering student due to the competitive and rigourous entrance req's into the acctg school and the harsh curving of the ENG grades makes for less than stellar GPA's out of ENG.</p>
<p>So I was curious how this might play at UM since yahoo! my son was accepted at UM eng today. I am sure my son wd be highly successful in ENG, but I am a 'just incase person always thinking of the contingencies.</p>
<p>If he has a high GPA in engineering, he will have options for going into quant finance and trading. Banking might be harder, but I’m sure it’s still possible. However, I think if he wants to do accounting, he needs an accounting degree wherever he goes. </p>
<p>I haven’t tried to transfer, but from what I hear, a 3.4 in CoE is generally good enough for Ross. In honesty, if he can’t achieve that Ross would likely be too competitive for him. If he wants to be safe, he shouldn’t jump into harder classes his first semester. (IE. Chem 210 or 215, Physics 260 or 340, probably best to avoid any engineering classes other than freshman ones)</p>
<p>To go into accounting or finance from Engineering you would need to transfer to Ross. Since Ross starts sophomore year, this would not be difficult to do if the decision is made during freshman year. To keep options open you would need to take Ross prereqs as electives.</p>
<p>It is very straightforward to transfer from COE to LSA.</p>
<p>^ accounting definitely, finance, especially on the markets side,definitely not. As an engineering major who has interned at two top banks over two summers and entering high finance for full time next year, I can tell you there is sure some false information in this thread.</p>
<p>As a mom of an engineering student I can tell you that the engineering coarses are outstanding. The rest of the required subjects Math and Chem have great professors and very nice GSI’s.After the first term, I can tell you that this place is a pressure cooker.</p>
<p>to what extent does coe classes employ a 'weed out ’ approach? i notice the pressure cooker comment. dtails on ‘weed out’ in eng. found in the thread i cited above. </p>
<p>to what extent are the teachers supportive and teaching oriente to the UGs - vs insensitive and imperious and wanting to do their research more than teach ing students?</p>
<p>bear, if you’re a coe major, then why r u interning w/ banks?</p>
<p>my op question was trying to ascertain an exitr options in case coe doesnt work out.</p>
<p>Hi Roderick,
A GSI is a teaching assistant in U Mich speak. The Eng 100 course that a freshman will take( and given a choice of a topic that interests them ) is a hands on group work based subject. The professor is very involved and the course does not have a lot of people in it. This culminates in an expo at the end of the term where the groups showcase their work. My son thought his prof. was amazing. The classes for Calc and Chem are large but broken down into smaller groups for discussions. The professors and GSI’s are very accesible and they also have review classes on the weekends if you are shaky on a concept. I’m not as hands on as I seem but I figured out this info as the term went on. There is a lot of work, hw, group work in this major and it is constant. Communication from the professors is great but you really have to be well organized and have good time management skills to succeed. My son ended up doing ok but he learned that all of the above is crucial to success. He does love it there by the way. If one has a passion for engineering, they’ll be driven to do well…if someone is just great at math and doing it for that reason, may not work out.</p>
<p>I don’t know why people have such a problem with large classes in general, especially at state schools when I see people on CC complain about large classes and no personal contact with the profs. The 300 people lecture hall classes are usually intro courses like gen chem, calculus, or intro psych that everyone has to take; its not something crucially important to the major. Your not going to get “personal” “engaging” professors in every single course you take, especially when your a freshman/sophomore.</p>
<p>I understand that UMich offers financial engineering, whatever that is and the people who major in it are very sought after and earn huge salaries with that degree. Maybe they develope the software that is used in banking and finance. And an education in anything makes you more well rounded. Good luck to all of you.</p>