<p>I saw this mentioned in the interesting thread currently going on at CC about when one should consider going to a 'state U or to a expensive private school' and I was curious whether there is an acctg major at UIUC. THere is a sub-topic in this thread concerning engineering , weeding out therefrom, and fallback options that is relevant to my question at UIUC.</p>
<p>If so, is it in the school of business? If so, how easy wd it be for an engineering student to opt into this major / school IF that student wanted out of ENG?</p>
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I know that you can't major in actuarial or accounting work at many of the UC's; if you're weeded out of Berkeley or UCLA engineering, as many are, no accounting or actuarial major fallback option exists. {Note, UCLA has an accounting minor, but not an actual accounting major.}
<p>Yes it exists, though I don’t know the procedure for transferring into it:
[Course</a> Information Suite, Course Catalog, Class Schedule, Programs of Study, General Education Requirements, GenEd](<a href=“Course Explorer”>Course Explorer)</p>
<p>All majors:
[Course</a> Information Suite, Course Catalog, Class Schedule, Programs of Study, General Education Requirements, GenEd](<a href=“Course Explorer”>Course Explorer)</p>
<p>UIUC’s accounting program is perennially rated number 1 or 2 in USNews ratings. </p>
<p>If you apply as a freshman to the business college, unlike the other colleges at UIUC, you do not specify a major when you apply. Instead, you apply as “business unassigned.” If admitted to the business college,you then simply get to choose as you progress which particular business major you want. In other words, to become an accounting major you take the courses required for it. The business college is in fact the hardest one to be admitted to with an admission rate in the 40% range.</p>
<p>thanks , drsusba, for the answer and the citation. Unfortunately, if one has been following the gist of that thread I referred to above – that there are many times poor or no good second options for would-be engineering students at universities that do engineering – the requirements mentioned to get into UIUC’s accting program effectively provide no good second option for an engineering student who would opt out (or be “weeded out” as the term is used) .</p>
<p>It is ironic that UIUC has a premier ACCTG program, so close to the engineering student right on his or her own campus, but the ENG student would not be able to avail his or her self of this program in the event that student would want to opt out of ENG. </p>
<p>Being turned down even with a 4.0 or high 3 in either bus. courses or in engineering courses (which , if the ENG student had THOSE kinds of grades, they probably would not have opted out of ENG) means effectively that avenue at UIUC is shut off and the student wd ironically have to transfer to some other college.</p>
<p>My son will find out today if he is in ENG or DGS (or out totally). It almost sounds like it might be somewhat easier to get into ACCTG from DGS than ENG since that student could be taking the req’d ACCTG classes - as well as the time for “ECs” - that an ENG student would not have time for. </p>
<p>On the subject of ECs , to transfer into ACCTG, the student would have to go through that competition circus again to get into the bus. school just after going through it as an incoming freshman? Does he have to found his own charity during freshman yr in his spare time while trying to acculturate himself at that huge school just to ‘keep his options open’?</p>
<p>my son did get two 5s on AP macro and micro econ. would that take of the micro and macro requirement out of curiousity?</p>
<p>5s on AP macro and micro are acceptable credits (for business and any other college) and allow you to skip the first two econ courses. The Business College essentially enrolls about 600 freshman (that is its goal and sometimes actual enrollment is higher like 650 or more). At the freshman level, it has in the last several years been getting about 2900 or more applicants. It admits about 1150 to 1200 with the goal of hitting its enrollment target of about 600. Thus it has a low admission rate. On top of that it then does not have a high turnover rate where freshman decide to leave UIUC or tramsfer to another UIUC college, with the result that the number of seats that open for transfers is not large. Add to that is that you get many that try to transfer into it. In other words, Business knows it can be picky. It is a full file review college and considers essays and ECs very important. No, you don’t have to have found your own company (although it gets some of those) but they are looking for people they believe will eventually be managerial or entrepreneurial types and not just 9-5 workers and thus things that show leadership and drive help.</p>
<p>Your concerns with engineering have some basis although even the business college in transfers takes into account that engineering transfer applicants are likely to have lower GPAs than others. Though many do not know it, engineering has one of the highest admission rates, usually in the over 70% range. It has the highest middle 50% ranges for rank and test score and that results becuase the vast majority that apply for engineering have those stats. Basically its goal is to enroll about 1200 a year (twice what business does) and for that it gets about 3400 applicants and accepts about 2400 to 2500. Engineering has a higher turnover rate than many other majors and freshman who leave either (a) decide it is just not for them or (b) hit some bad grades and realize they are better off going. The larger portion that leave are usually those. Engineering has courses that many consider weed-outs (for some that includes math and chemistry, for many that includes the first physics course taken second semester) and it takes a lot of hard work for most to get through the first two years (after that the hard work just seems to be what one gets used to and does not even consider to be that hard anymore). In any event, there are freshman in engineering who end up needing to transfer and cannot get into business because their grades are too low.</p>