<p>Things have gotten pretty bad:</p>
<p>It seems you are on a crusading mission to stop us from working in the states Hmom 
thanks we get the message.</p>
<p>If Americans are too stupid to keep smart people, they deserve to go down the toilet.</p>
<p>Screw it, I’m going to Canada. Like you said, smart people like me aren’t welcome here.</p>
<p>hahaha…the article was extremely interesting though</p>
<p>However, I still understand why they must be extremely protectionist…however, I dont believe they can eat their cake and have it…fewer immigrant and fewer innovations this isn’t debatable. No American wants to waste 6 years on a PhD</p>
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<p>Sums it up.</p>
<p>yeah…when I tell my lcassmates I am leaving immediately after school they are like apply for a greencard and I am like ***</p>
<p>lolz
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<p>I think we’re nuts. As the article points out, half of the companies in Silicon Valley were started by immigrants. America desperately needs the next big thing.</p>
<p>I agree with hmom5 that the US immigration policy is nuts. I’d love to be able to hand out green cards to everyone who finishes college here and can land a job. However all of us have to deal with how things are, not how we want them to be. Each and every one of you needs to have very clear plans for what you can do back in your home country, or in some other country, after you graduate from your programs in the US.</p>
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<p>No you don’t. You can start by firing the senators that don’t listen to you when their contracts come up for renewal (i.e. when they come up for reelection). They answer to you, remember? Or did Americans become too sheepish to hold their politicians accountable?</p>
<p>Anyway, for some people, the plan if they were to go back to their home countries is, I don’t know, unemployment?</p>
<p><em>applauds forthrightness</em></p>
<p>They might even put quotas on the Indians because they totally owned the H1b Visa.
[Indians</a> got 38% H-1B visas in 2008](<a href=“http://www.rediff.com/money/2009/apr/13indians-got-38-percent-h-1b-visas-in-2008.htm]Indians”>Indians got 38% H-1B visas in 2008)</p>
<p>There are pro-immigration candidates, and then there are pro-immigration candidates. Should I vote for the candidate who will let undocumented kids whose parents brought them here at the age of 6 go to college for in-state tuition, or should I vote for the candidate who will hand out a green card with every college diploma? What about the candidate who will spend more money in international aid to help faltering nations in other parts of the world build functioning economies so that their young people don’t think that the US is the only place that they can have a future? What about a candidate who got into office promising all of those three things, and then had the world economy go bust so all old goals had to be reconsidered?</p>
<p>I do my best at every election to choose the best candidate. Even when my candidate wins, there is no guarantee that he or she will be able to effect the changes that I had hoped for. That is why I tell you that you have to be realistic and deal with things as they are. We don’t have any evidence that things are going to improve for any of you on the immigration and employment front in the near future. I do encourage you to continue to work for, and hope for the best. Without that work and without that hope, there will never be a change. But please, prepare yourselves for the worst as well.</p>
<p>The fact is that the average American does not want to open the doors. They don’t see the big picture and their representatives must respond to that. I’m certain many politicians understand what’s best for the Country but know their careers would be over if they broke with their constituents.</p>
<p>Read the comments that were written by the NYT readers, a pretty educated group, in response to this article. The vast majority are from people who feel foreigners have taken their jobs and driven down their salaries.</p>
<p>When they took away most of the H1B visas in 2004 it was with great approval in the States. Sentiment is even more anti now.</p>
<p>“No you don’t. You can start by firing the senators that don’t listen to you when their contracts come up for renewal (i.e. when they come up for reelection). They answer to you, remember? Or did Americans become too sheepish to hold their politicians accountable?”</p>
<p>I dont really agree with this. Immigration laws should be strict no matter what-not just for America’s sake but the sake of other countries. I agree that the best and the brightest should be allowed to work anywhere they want…but not everyone international student who comes to the US is the best and the brightest. Some of us would be better off in our countries…the H1-B is a skilled workers visa and not just a cheap labor visa…I think people should read past the article and read other articles on immigration. </p>
<p>I too would love to stay in the US and I have been trying to find out possibilities as well as alternates but I am also aware of the fact that my choice could have…there are not many jobs in the US and any job that goes to foreign students might be taken from an American student. Ok lets all switch roles and imagine this was happening in your country…lets say India. So India is this extremely developed country (hypothetical) and everyone wants to go to school in India and stay in India. However, India is in a recession and many of these foreign students from other countries keep coming planning to stay in India. Indian citizens are being laid off while companies keep hiring these foreign nationals because they might be a cheaper alternative especially when cost has to be cut down. Indians then become really *<strong><em>ed. Their senators-who are voted in by these *</em></strong>ed indians- have nothing to do but be against immigration.</p>
<p>I just gave you protectionism in a nutshell. Hey and Canada is not rosy either…coming from the third world to the first world , it is difficult to get a good job no matter what school you attended-yale or podunk state-you are all in the same category if you are an immigrant.</p>
<p>I can’t believe they starred the word pi-ss-ed</p>
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Screw it, I’m going to Canada. Like you said, smart people like me aren’t welcome here.
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<p>[NotCanada.com</a> | The Truth About Immigration To Canada](<a href=“http://www.notcanada.com%5DNotCanada.com”>http://www.notcanada.com)</p>
<p>sefago: they can start by not granting amnesty to illegal aliens. And honestly, if the US wants to engage in protectionism, they need to stop whining when the EU imposes tariffs, subsidizes Airbus, or some other country engages in a protectionist policy. Because while the American government subsidizes Boeing to a greater extent than the EU ever did Airbus, the US is the first to throw a temper tantrum at the WTO every time someone is “protectionist.” </p>
<p>So my whole point is: adapt or die. And the second point is: open your markets or don’t participate in the global marketplace.</p>
<p>cdover: I’ve seen that website. And I seriously have to doubt the neutrality of a website whose address is “notcanada.com.”</p>
<p>I think we are using the word “protectionism” way too lightly here. Don’t the United States have the right to protect the job security of it’s own citizen first. It’s not illogical or irrational for the US Senate and Congress to enact law that prohibits abuse of it’s immigration system. They can shutdown all points of entry and there’s nothing we can do. There’s no reciprocity between countries that allow movement of labor and people between countries. When they issued you your F1 visa, there’s no stipulation or a promise of job. India itself doesn’t have a provision that allows foreign workers to work and at the same time adjust status in India to become permanent legal resident. While the US admits thousands of Indian tech workers, the Indian goverment doesn’t allow the same number of foreign workers in their own country. The US can restrict the number of people they allow into their country if their way of life is being threatend. It doesn’t matter if your the brightest or the smartest.</p>