Canadian business programmes (Rotman vs Ivey vs Desautels)

<p>I've been accepted to...
University of Toronto (Arts & Science)
McGill (Arts)
Western Ontario (BMO/business management)</p>

<p>I'm interested in doing management and would prefer UofT or McGill, however, that would mean that I would need to transfer my second year. Do any of you know how hard/easy this would be?</p>

<p>As for Western Ontario, I missed the AEO status deadline, would this greatly affect my chances of admissions to the Ivey School of Business?
I'm interested in doing business management or marketing in a large city like Toronto or the States (i.e: New York)...I'm not sure if I'm doing grad, but would where I do under-grad matter a whole lot? Especially in terms of their commerce programmes, which would y'all suggest? Rotman, Ivey, or Desautels?</p>

<p>I'm aware that I need connections and I'm worried that the fact that I don't speak French will limit my opportunities while at McGill, however, I like the school more.</p>

<p>HELP?! thanks!</p>

<p>Few points:

  1. Not knowing French will not limit your opportunities in McGill.
  2. All 3 programs will entail you transferring. I don’t know which one of the three will be the easiest though.
  3. All 3 will equip you for working in Toronto or US. Undergraduate-wise, Ivey beats the other two.</p>

<p>Good luck.</p>

<p>Go for Western’s Ivey. As long as you can maintain 3.7 or higher during your first year, you should be able to get in to the program. Richard Ivey will give you better career options in Toronto / New York etc. </p>

<p>@princeton2031 , thank you for the insight. If I had to choose between UofT’s Rotman commerce and McGill’s Desautels, which would you recommend? Also, would you happen to know how hard it is to transfer from the arts faculty into the business faculty at either McGill or UofT? Is it highly unlikely? </p>

<p>@nightlights, (after reading through different forums) it would seem that western may be your best bet to transfer to business (Ivey) but you have to work hard. As you to your question to princeton regarding McGill or UofT, UofT maybe harder because of supposed grade-deflation. This grade deflation is denied by other students so we really do not know if it truly exists.</p>

<p>For others on the list, I have my own question:
Queen’s commerce vs Rotman commerce – which would you choose?
-(factors being looked at are: 1) job opportunities 2) networking 3) flexibility in taking lots of electives in a non-business course 4) gpa boost for grad school like law, med, mba, etc ) </p>

<p>@moneyp do you think it’s worth taking the risk and going to Western and possibly not getting into Ivey or going to McGill or UofT and not getting into their business schools? </p>

<p>My opinion…
1.) Job opportunities
-I would go with Rotman because it is in the heart of the city, a friend of mine said that Rotman provides you with A LOT of opportunities in your 2nd year and onwards; additionally, UofT is in the heart of Ontario and right there w/ the financial district so I’d go with Rotman.
2.) Networking
-I’m not very familiar with Queen’s, but I’d go with Rotman if you’re going to the States because it is more well-known in the US. If you’re referring to in-school networking, I’d also go with Rotman because of the reasons mentioned in the first point: large city, large school.
3.) Flexibility
I’m sorry, I don’t know the answer to this, I do know some people doing Rotman, I can ask for you, I don’t know anyone at Queen’s, but if you’re interested in York and McGill, I could also ask around.
4.) GPA boost
Queen’s. Definitely Queen’s.</p>

<p>@nightlights, go for Western. Work hard. Get a good gpa. Be active in extracurriculars. Apply to enter Ivey on your second year. That would be the best choice for you. Take the risk.</p>

<p>I would say these are top 6 Canadian business programs. (Job prospects, Networking etc)

  1. Western (Richard Ivey)
  2. Queen’s (Commerce)
  3. York (Schulich)
  4. U of T (Rotman)
  5. McGill (Desautels)
  6. UBC (Sauder) </p>

<p>@nightlights You can’t compare Queen’s and Rotman. Queen’s trumps Rotman in job opportunities, networking, GPA chances, and flexibility (3rd and 4th year are entirely electives except for 1 required course).</p>

<p>Rotman doesn’t even publish an undergrad employment report. Here are a few Queen’s Commerce placements:</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.quiconline.com/development/”>http://www.quiconline.com/development/&lt;/a&gt;
<a href=“http://qgm.ca/recruiting/”>http://qgm.ca/recruiting/&lt;/a&gt;
<a href=“http://www.limestonecapital.ca/career-paths/”>http://www.limestonecapital.ca/career-paths/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Not to mention UofT will probably provide you with one of the worst student experiences in Canada in terms on fun, workload, etc.</p>

<p>@lecool , thank you for the links and you’re response. Sorry, I’m not that familiar with Queen’s, my response was just what I personally would choose, however limited that may be.</p>

<p>I think U of T and McGill are the best overall choices. Rotman is my top choice and I chose it over McGill, Queens, Schulich, and Ivey. Being in Toronto opens so many opportunities for internships and recruitment. Also, attending their BCom program gives you a better chance to get into their MBA program, which is undeniably the best in the county. U of T is not only one of the best schools in the country, it is one of the best in the world. Though the program is vigorous, it is worth it for it’s strong international reputation. Also, if you want to get into finance, specifically investment management, this is the place to be, as you will get hands on experience in Toronto’s stock market. Good luck with your decisions! ;)</p>

<p>Also, attending their BCom program gives you a better chance to get into their MBA program, which is undeniably the best in the county. [sic]</p>

<p>A couple of thoughts on this statement:</p>

<ol>
<li>Attending a BCom program to gain access to an MBA program at the same school isn’t a good reason to choose a Bcom program. I think that having a BCom and an MBA from the same school is more of negative than a positive.</li>
<li>The various rankings of Canadian MBA programs by various publications such as The Economist and Business Week would suggest that there is no consensus on the what is the best MBA program is in Canada.</li>
</ol>