<p>Hi all, I'm a Canadian student recently moved to California on a TD visa with my family (my dad has TN). I got into pretty much every UC, but now comes the problem of paying for it. Because of my visa status, I'm going to hav to pay international, and I wasnt allowed to apply for FAFSA.
I did a search, and found this thing called canHELP loan designed to help out Canadian students, but there doesnt seem to be much information about this loan. Does anyone know anything about the rates, how the interest is calculated (for example, accrued as soon as I borrow the loan, or not until I graduate), etc. Also does anyone know any other type of financial aid to help internationals?</p>
<p>common... no one has any info?</p>
<p>Some words of advice:</p>
<p>The TN status is intended to be a temporary status. Sure, your dad can renew his status at the border every year, but if the border guards suspect that his job is a permanent position and he is using the TN status as an excuse to stay in the U.S. indefinitely, then they can turn him back at the border.</p>
<p>So that means that every time he attempts renews his TN status, there is a chance that he will be rejected, which means that every year, you have a chance of being kicked out of the U.S. while you are in college. Now you would not want that to happen while you are taking courses. I would say that after four years with the TN, your dad will be treading water.</p>
<p>I would recommend that you apply for a separate F-1 (student) status, so that no matter what happens to your dad, you can stay in the U.S. while you are a student. Make sure that your family has a permanent address in Canada, otherwise it won't work.</p>
<p>That's all I have to say, other than that I hope you and your dad are proud Canadians and not some Chinese or other foreign people with Canadian citizenship taking advantage of the special TN status between the U.S. and my lovely country. Canada forever!</p>
<p>"I hope you and your dad are proud Canadians and not some Chinese or other foreign people with Canadian citizenship taking advantage of the special TN status between the U.S. and my lovely country."</p>
<p>You gave him a really wise and smart advise Vicente but I must admit that your last sentence makes me happy for not wanting to ever ever naturalize regardless of the citizenship that I might acquire. You belong to where you were born and to your own little group. Citizenship through naturalization is just a piece of paper. People will always try to remind you that you are an outsider who is trying to rip their benefits as native born of any country that you chose to naturalize. Thanks God my country does not recognize dual citizenship so I won't even think about naturalization. If the authority of your new country decide to get rid off your little piece of paper, you will be in deep water (if you lose your original citizenship).</p>
<p>Nothing personal Vicente. If I were you, I would also be concern by it too. It's just patriotism</p>
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<p>well I know a bunch of people who are US citizen because they're born here due to their parents visiting the US just to give birth their children here. These children grew up in foreign countries, their native language isn't english (few barely speak english), they knew very little of american culture, etc etc, Aside from being born in the US, these children has no family relationship, any connection whatsoever with the US but they're considered natural American citizen. Meanwhile I also know children who immigrated here from China since 2-3 years old, grew up here, live the way most americans are. Do you still think these natural born children as more "american" than people who immigrated here from China since they were 2-3 years old and grow up in the US since. You're ignorant and racist aren't you? Let me guess, you have some citizenship in one of wealthy countries like UAE or Kuwait.</p>
<p>You asked a good question.
When I say that you belong to where you were born, I mean people who were born in a country and grew up there. People who have a cultural tie to their land of birth and a strong emotional tie to it. </p>
<p>As far as someone who were born in another country but grew up somewhere else, I would say that home is not where you were born but where you grewp up. It's like someone who was born in NY but grew up in California. that person wouldn't call home NY but California.</p>
<p>But you know that even if you grew up in a country where you were born or not , even if you know that this place is where you belong and where your heart beats, sometimes you might be rejected by those who consider themselves as the real citizen of this place. For ex:
I was watching a documentary about Asian immigrants in the US, some of the kids were in born in the US and grew up here, others were born in China and Hong Kong but immigrate to the US at an early age. Since they grew up here, they identified themselves more to the american culture than to their parent's culture however one of them said that sometimes people would remind her that she does not belong here because of the way she looks. The guy who create Yahoo was in the documentary, he himself said that he was sometimes confused because he knew that he did not belong to the Chinese culture since he grew up here but sometimes some of his school mate would give him this weird look because he did not look "American". Almost all the characters in the documentary said that they were always waiting for the day, someone would told them " go back to where you come from" , go back to where you belong because you are not American you are Asian.</p>
<p>You see there can be some exception but I think that what matter the most is that the individual himself, still loves his land of birth or land of adoption regardless of what people say. Anyway, let's not make an issue out of it and give everyone the choice to chose where they belong too.:D</p>
<p>Waw! I went and reread your answer and you are telling me that I am " ignorant and racist aren't you? Let me guess, you have some citizenship in one of wealthy countries like UAE or Kuwait."? waw! I don't see why you come up with this racist thing and why does race have to pop up here. All I was trying to talk was about patriotism. You probably got what I was saying in my post wrong because I was just telling Vicente that what he thought about the other guy was not really nice because even if He was an immigrant, the moment that you let him have a canadian citizenship, it means that you accept him in your country. So he should get the same benefit that all canadian citizen would get. It's like if you let someone stay at your house at night because it's raining outside, would you let him sleep on the bere floor or would you give him the warm bed, like you would do for your children and your brother? Nope , I am not from a communist country and where I come from, if there is no place in the house and a stranger wake my parents up in the middle of the night because he need a shelter, my siblings and I would put a bed sheet on the floor and let him sleep on our bed. Because once my parents, let him enter our house, he immediately become a part of the family. So he deserves hot breakfast in the morning and a hot shower, like my brothers and I get. Same things goes for immigrant or naturalized citizen.</p>
<p>And I say that you belong where you were born because whether you agree or not, there are some people who won't ever accept you in their society if you were not born there. Jeez!! go take a cold shower than reread anything I wrote.</p>
<p>"Nope , I am not from a communist country " sorry for the typo.
I wanted to write , Nope I am not from one of the wealthiest country in the world and I don' have some citizenship UAE, Kuwait or any where else you would like to guess.</p>
<p>I think that I am the luckiest person here. Some people in this foruim. always try to find a way to turn my post upside down and crucify me.</p>
<p>The problem is that Canadian citizenship IS just a piece of paper. It is much easier to immigrate to Canada than to the U.S. And after you immigrate, you only need to stay in Canada for THREE years, not FIVE as in most other Western countries, to become a full-fledged citizen.</p>
<p>That's right, lots of people who don't even speak English and hate the West and our culture, are Canadian citizens. If I were U.S. Immigration, I would NOT be granting these special TN statuses to Canadian citizens UNLESS they were a.) either born here in Canada or b.) have been a citizen for at least 10 years and have not visited an enemy country in their current passport. I'm not at all implying that RuolinFan's family are this, but the TN status is ripe for abuse on the Canadian side by terrorists and immigration freeloaders.</p>
<p>I shouldn't have put in my rant about the NAFTA TN status on RuolinFan's thread, cuz it comes off as a personal attack against him, which it in no way is, but only a rant against the people with no loyalty to Canada who take advantage of the special relationship we have with the U.S.</p>
<p>The only advice I would give you Vincente is to apologize to Ruolinfan because you don't know him, you don't know what circumstance brought him to the US, you don't know why his father came to work here. There are so many things that you don't know. But it's nice that you aknowledge that you world sounded as a personal attack against Ruolinfan. It's Just an advice, not an order. Now let's end this immigration discussion there and let people give advice to Ruolinfan about his problem.
Peace</p>
<p>Ruolinfan I think that you should check to see if there could be any aid for Canadian citizen from your colleges. Good luck</p>
<p>lol its ok vincent, i AM a proud canadian, and NOT some chinese guy who took advantage of the canadian system (although we ARE chinese)
but like yea, that's just getting off topic, just wondering how are you guys getting financial aid in the US cuz like i cant get fafsa
have any of you guys ever heard of canHELP?
ps thnx antilles</p>
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<p>vicente- please note some may take serious offense. Who do you consider “foreign” and “native”?–> Are you atttempting to categorize people according to skin color? </p>
<p><3 Canada.</p>