Canadian Universities

<p>Anybody know anything about Canadian Universities? I live abroad so it's an option that people around me talk about, and Canadian colleges seem to have REALLY late admission deadlines. I mean the final deadline for UBC is May 1. So you know, if you don't get accepted anywhere, is it a good option? How is a Canadian University different from a US university? It's cheaper than a lot of top US private colleges. I'm talking about UBC, Toronto, Alberta, etc.</p>

<p>I visited McGill over the summer and it is right in the heart of downtown Montreal, which happens to be a pretty cool city. McGill and Toronto are the two top schools in Canada I believe.</p>

<p>I too was looking at UBC for awhile, as well UToronto and McGill. From what I hear, the order is about like this:</p>

<p>McGill
UT
UBC</p>

<p>And yes, it is pretty easy to get into UBC, its cheap to attend, and its located in a beautiful city. I believe Canadian universities only look at your GPA and test scores, which is a plus for many people.</p>

<p>Finally, as far as quality compared to US universities, I hear if McGill was in the rankings with US schools, it would be around #25, UT around #30, and UBC around #50.</p>

<p>The problem with Canada (it's a double-edged sword, actually) is its proximity to the U.S. A lot of academically serious Canadian students simply come to the United States for their college education. You won't find as many Canadians with perfect standardized test scores and #1 ranks at McGill or UT as you would at some of the higher-ranked American schools.</p>

<p>Actually, UofT isn't the most highly ranked in terms of educational quality!
In fact, if you do your research, UofT is probably the worst in many categories.
From a research perspective, uofT, McGill and UBC are top notch. Of course, considering they have over 22000 students at each school, based on tuition alone, they can fund for research facilities. However, in the recent rankings from McLeans, UofT(not sure about mcgill and ubc) ranks at the bottom for residence life, educational quality and other aspects of student life. That's not to say the school is bad! If you are a good student, you'll be good anywhere, and even at large schools.
if you really want to have a good educational experience in Canada, I would highly recommend University of Western Ontario and Queen's
Best of Luck</p>

<p>1: UBC is not cheap for non-residents...
<a href="http://www.students.ubc.ca/finance/fees.cfm?page=tuition%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.students.ubc.ca/finance/fees.cfm?page=tuition&lt;/a>
I have visited UBC ,Toronto and queens..I would choose either UBC or queens..U of Toronto is like NYU very impersonal and the campus is spread out..When visiting U of Toronto i didn't find one int. students that was happy with the school most of them complained about their professors and the university itself..
In term of prestige most int. ranks would place U of toronto in front of Mcgill.
"Finally, as far as quality compared to US universities, I hear if McGill was in the rankings with US schools, it would be around #25, UT around #30, and UBC around #50"<a href="http://ed.sjtu.edu.cn/rank/2006/ARWU2006_Top100.htm"&gt;http://ed.sjtu.edu.cn/rank/2006/ARWU2006_Top100.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>I'm not a big believer in those rankings. Anybody that puts Brown University behind Boston University isn't very reputable, in my opinion.</p>

<p>Still, I have heard McGill is better for undergrad than UT, while UT is a better university overall. It's very subjective, I suppose, but we can at least agree that they are both better than UBC.</p>

<p>Note to the OP: I was considering UT but didn't apply because housing is only guaranteed (and basically allowed) for your first year. There is very little sense of community, as has been said.</p>

<p>At least at NYU you are guaranteed housing for all 4 years.</p>

<p>McGill and UBC are both located in incredible cities/areas. Toronto is nice, but not as nice as the former.</p>

<p>The London Times Higher Education Supplement (THES) [url=<a href="http://www.thes.co.uk%5Dranking%5B/url"&gt;http://www.thes.co.uk]ranking[/url&lt;/a&gt;] actually places McGill above Toronto. McGill in fact ranks **11th in North America<a href="US+%20Canada">/b</a> according to THES, while Toronto is ranked 14th. Both are however very large public universities (Toronto has over 50,000 undergraduate students and McGill, over 24,000), which often translates into large class sizes, distant faculty, etc. As for entrance requirements, unlike Canadian applicants, US students applying to McGill are required to submit SAT scores.</p>

<p>Thanks for all the feedback</p>

<p>So the ones to look at are U of T, UBC, Queens, and McGill?</p>

<p>I guess I wont apply to UT cuz their requirements are too high for engineering. I only took physics up to my sophomore year, and no IB Physics. McGill is easier on the requirements but their deadline's in January. And I have good safeties so not really looking at applying to Canada unless I really need to. Sick of writing essays and filling out applications anyways. But that kicks me out of UBC as well. Well thanks a lot. I'll look at the other schools later cuz im at school :P</p>

<p>Just a correction on the information I posted before: McGill is actually ranked 12th and Toronto 15th in North America according to THES. More information on the Times ranking may be found [url=<a href="http://www.topuniversities.com/worlduniversityrankings/2006/tables/top_200/%5Dhere%5B/url"&gt;http://www.topuniversities.com/worlduniversityrankings/2006/tables/top_200/]here[/url&lt;/a&gt;].&lt;/p>

<p>And to further complain about the rankings posted by pateta:</p>

<p>UW-Seattle is above UT-Austin and UMich-Ann Arbor. </p>

<p>UCSB is also above USC.</p>

<p>And UW-seattle is better than UT-austin...and look at the ranking methodology</p>

<p>I would disagree with that.</p>

<p>And UW-Seattle is better than Ann Arbor? :rolleyes:</p>

<p>And Brown and Rice should be ranked in the low 80s? Come on.</p>

<p>Came on you can do better than that!!LOOK AT RANKING METHODOLOGY.
and i agree with you .. i think Umich is better than UW</p>

<p>I don't think there is any ranking methodology that can put UW-Seattle above UMich-AA.</p>

<p>I know I'm late in responding, but I think you should consider UBC.</p>

<p>I hear they have a very good engineering department, it's in a beautiful and temperate part of Canada, and everyone I know who goes there LOVES it.</p>

<p>I'm an American with a master's degree from U of Toronto. I can't believe the amount to bad info being spewed here, such as, "U of Toronto is like NYU very impersonal and the campus is spread out." This is simply not true. U of T's main campus, not far from downtown Toronto, is very compact and contiguous. There isn't a wall around it, but if you look at a map of the campus, you can see that it is certainly not "spread out." When you go to class, you definitely feel like you are on a college campus, and not just walking around urban streets. There are 2 much-smaller suburban campuses that most students on the main campus are barely aware of; those campuses hardly make the school "spread out."</p>

<p>Furthermore, the undergrads are divided up into various "colleges" so there is much more of a feeling of belonging to a smaller entity there (i.e. one's college) than at most large universities in the US. The graduate departments are large enough to support vibrant intra-departmental social events. If you're a grad student in something like philosophy or classics at most American universities, there are a maybe a dozen or 2 grad students in your field. At Toronto there are usually a lot more than that--which produces a variety of social (and academic) opportunities far beyond that available at most American schools.</p>

<p>Somebody else said Toronto has over 50,000 undergraduate students. According to the 2006 Fiske guide, it has about 40,000, which is a lot, but a place like Indiana-Bloomington has 30,000.</p>

<p>Probably the biggest difference between prominent Canadian universities and comparable American schools is that in Canada college sports are not a big deal AT ALL. So they usually lack the rah-rah attitude, Saturday-afternoon tailgating, and other things that go along with bigtime sports programs.</p>

<p>ehe...so who all are applying to canadian universities ?</p>

<p>are there any scholarship/finaid options available at Canadian univs for intl' students?</p>

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Do I have any chance at UBC, UVIC, Queens, Guelph, Western
I want to major in commerce but know that it is extremely competitive</p>

<p>Which of the Canadian universities mentioned would have the best chemistry program for undergrads?</p>