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Perhaps in good weather when there’s no traffic. Realistically, it’s more like an hour. More importantly, Carleton has, at least on paper, a somewhat restrictive car policy [1]. Hence, many students take the bus into the Twin Cities (which definitely takes more than an hour).

Also, Carleton is rather left-wing. Actually, it’s comparable to Oberlin, Reed, Grinnell and Macalester. From CIRP incoming student surveys for Carleton [2014] and Reed [2010] [2]:

First year students who identify as ___ Carleton% Reed%
Far left: 18% (Carleton), 19% (Reed)
Liberal: 58%, 62%
Middle of the road: 20%, 16%
Conservative: 4%, 3%
Far right: under 1%, 0%

There certainly is diversity of opinion on campus, but the Overton window at Carleton ranges roughly from: Hillary (right) to Bernie (center) to people who think both Hillary and Bernie are not liberal enough (left). The sole Republican group on campus shut down because there was not enough interest[3]. St Olaf is more moderate than Carleton, but still fairly liberal.

To the OP, I would suggest looking at Claremont McKenna.


[1] It used to be VERY restrictive when I was there. I understand it’s become more lax in recent decades. Nevertheless, there’s a limit on the number of parking permits issued, and you cannot have a car without a permit.

https://apps.carleton.edu/handbook/travel/?a=student&policy_id=871670

Why the policy in the first place?

One reason is the college wanted to be good neighbors. Residents of Northfield don’t want to be inundated with student vehicular traffic and compete with them for limited parking spaces in such a small town.

Historically, though, there was a second reason (which ties in with the political thing): students felt that banning cars would be more egalitarian and foster a greater sense of community. They didn’t want rich students (i.e., the ones with the cars) to be the only ones able to go off campus on nights and weekends; they wanted a residential college, not a commuter campus. Today more students have off-campus jobs or internships, so the car policy was relaxed.

[2] Sources:

https://apps.carleton.edu/carletonian/?story_id=1482546&issue_id=1482544

http://www.reed.edu/ir/assets/images/graphs/Reed2010CIRP.pdf

https://web.archive.org/web/20161031063637/http://www.princetonreview.com:80/college-rankings?rankings=most-liberal-students

https://web.archive.org/web/20161024211751/http://www.princetonreview.com:80/college-rankings?rankings=tree-hugging-vegetarians

[3] https://apps.carleton.edu/carletonian/?story_id=1644953&issue_id=1644949

Thanks for these guys, please keep 'em coming!

I see what y’all are saying about prioritizing some of these criteria over others…
The things that are less important to me are the TA thing, course requirements, and greek life

Wake Forest (which some of y’all have mentioned) is actually one of the schools I’ve toured, and boy, I think it could’ve been perfect with the exception of the surrounding environment (…a lot of trees, not a lot of things to do…) Close but no cigar, hence the title of the thread :slight_smile:

-WJ

for sure: university of richmond, university of denver, boston college
maybe: villanova, creighton

College of the Holy Cross would seem to meet your criteria.
3,000 students, small class size, no TAs.
No Greek life. Beautiful campus but in a small city and close to Boston. Strong program in economics. Entrepreneurship program and pre business program also available. Very strong community.

Agree with Rochester and Richmond. Johns Hopkins? (bump SAT up a bit though). Fordham? Great internships, no Greek, NYC.

I would second Furman and University of Richmond. A previous poster mentioned W&L, which I love as my alma mater, but is heavily Greek and quite a bit smaller than what OP stated as a preference. Davidson does have a D1 basketball presence, and is just north of Charlotte, but is also quite small. Both W&L and Davidson would be terrific choices for econ, I think, but W&L will not have the rah-rah sports or size or proximity to a city (Roanoke is 50 miles away and Charlottesville is about an hour away), and Davidson will not have the size, either.

My D quite liked Greenville, SC, and U of R is close to shopping and restaurants, even if they really aren’t “walking distance.” I saw lots of shuttles at U of Richmond.

SMU would hit most of these as well, something to consider.

Bentley University in Waltham, MA - great undergraduate business and fits most of your wants