<p>I just saw a similar thread about amhersts. How does Carleton compare to ihe Ivies. In order of reputation, academic excellence, grad school admissions? And also to other good universities like university of chicago, Emory, Notre Dame, Carnagie Mellon etc.?</p>
<p>Oh and also colorado college VS Ivies etc. because I was interesed in it...</p>
<p>Prestige(for men on street): Ivies,Chicago>Emory,Notre Dame,CMU>Carleton, Colorado
Acadamics: HYP> the rest, which are all top notch. (All the schools u've mentioned have their strengths and weaknesses, e.g Chicago strong in econs, CMU strong in CS, etc, and Carleton, is very strong in Science, Math, CS, and better than some of the ivies. Also quite strong in econs and english)
Grad school admissions/Reputation: HYP> rest of ivies, chicago, Carleton> Notre Dame, Emory, CMU, colorado</p>
<p>If you wanna graduate from a LAC and directly go back to your own country(I see from ur other threads that u are an International student), it could be hard to market urself. However, if you consider to be a professor, to do research, or to work for a few years in the USA then go back to your own country, Or if you wanna go to Grad schools after an LAC undergrad education then find a job, just go to Carleton. Dont worry abt its reputation. It is highly respected in the academic world, seriously. </p>
<p>BTW from ur other threads i saw u asking abt whether its worth it to spend so much to come to the States. In my opinion, an USA kind of education is really worth for your money. I am admitted to Unversity of Cambridge, University of Singapore, Imperial College, and many other UK universities but I am going to Carleton, intending to do econs/math.</p>
<p>BTW the daughter of the president of Pomona is a sophomore at Carleton, turned down Harvard.</p>
<p>and when one of my friends asked a professor from National University of Singapore abt where to study chemistry if she intended to do research about Chinese medicine in the future, the professor recommended Carleton, and mentioned that Dean of UC-Berkerley Chem department is a Carleton Grad. And UCBerkerley, is noted to be one of the best school to study chem. This shows how good Carleton's sciences are.</p>
<p>The "man on the street" conception is good, and I agree, though I think I might add that I don't see much of a difference intelligence-wise between my Ivy friends and my Chicago friends. I also don't see much of a difference between my HYP friends and my other Ivy friends, other than the other Ivy friends generally wanted to get in to HYP and didn't.</p>
<p>Chicago tends to be more academically focused, so it has a different flair from the Ivies and stands out to certain people (academics, professors, etc) in a different way than it does from employers, though I've heard of students giving tours to recruiters and the recruiters tell them that they love Chicago kids, because they like to do the work.</p>
<p>I'm also not surprised that somebody would choose Carleton over Harvard. Carleton is a one-of-a-kind school.</p>
<p>It is not possible to compare a LAC to a university...not as far as I am concerned anyway. Well, maybe Dartmouth and if one is willing to stretch things a little, Brown and Princeton. That does not mean LACs aren't as good mind you, because they are every bit as well regarded in academic and corporate circles, but they are completely different. </p>
<p>Among LACs, Carleton is one of the very best. Obviously, Amherst, Swarthmore and Williams are the top 3 LACs, but Carleton is one of the next 4 or 5 LACs that make up the second group. I would compare it to Bowdoin, Haverford, Middlebury, Pomona and Wesleyan.</p>
<p>Colorado College has an excellent reputation in the region -- but is relatively unknown on the coasts (to the man on the street, that is). I would not recommend attending Colorado College if you plan on going back to your country to get a job. Colorado College does an excellent job at placing kids in top grad schools (my son't friends are now in grad school at Harvard, Yale and Chicago) so it can be good for that. CC is also excellent at mentoring top students and a good place to really shine -- and being less competitive than many LACs, it might be a good one to keep on your list.</p>
<p>unalove: I was just wondering what is "one of a kind" about carleton? I can't go on campus visits because I am an international student, and from their website it seemed just like all other college/university website.</p>
<p>hsmomstef: I saw photos of the colorado and it was gorgeous!</p>
<p>Hahaha, I can't imagine a website saying, "HI, WE'RE DIFFERENT!"</p>
<p>Okay, maybe Reed.</p>
<p>The Carletonians I know are among the smartest and most interesting people I've met. Rather than the Ivy/Chicago/everywhere else vibes I get, where students can tend to be aggressive about the fact that they are significantly more intelligent than the average person, I think Carleton lacks that attitude. It's about frisbee, beer, and books. At least, that's the way I see it. I'm far from an expert.</p>
<p>I also don't know that much about CC but every graduate I know has gone on to do absolutely amazing things.</p>
<p>Carelton is a great school. Top notch if you want to study anything in East Asia.</p>
<p>Beyond that, you could get a better education with more typically intellectual kids. It's a great school. But most kids wouldn't turn down an Ivy for it. And in my experience, unlike Williams/Amherst/Pomona the caliber of kids accepted aren't quite equal to that of Ivies.</p>
<p>ses: what “experience” with Carleton?</p>
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<li>Per respective school’s Common Data Sets, 2006-7, median SATs:</li>
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<p>Amherst and Williams: V 660-760/M 660-760
Carleton: V 670-750/M 660-740</p>
<p>16% of entering class are NMF finalists, first among LACs</p>
<p>1st among LACs in graduates awarded National Science Foundation Fellowships for continued study in the past five years</p>
<p>From 1991-2000, last decade analyzed, 2nd among LACs sending students on to PhDs -
First in the sciences and math -
NO Ivy League school produces as many</p>
<p>Intellectual?</p>
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<li><p>The tiny East Asian Dept. may be “top notch” but, you do realize, majors number in the single digits?</p></li>
<li><p>It’s spelled CarLEton</p></li>
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<p>1190 said what i wanted to say. Carleton students are special, and parallell to ivies, SWAP. Definitely not lower in the sense of "intellectuality".</p>
<p>So dont worry about Carleton's academics.</p>