Carleton vs Notre Dame vs NYU Shanghai

<p>I'm trying to make a decision out of these three and it seems impossible. ND really wants me to go, and I can apply for their honors program. Carleton seems like I'd be happiest at, because of its laid back, nonrestrictive nature. Shanghai was very selective and I may be the only person from my state to have gotten in. It would mean I could really achieve fluency at Chinese and go on the adventure of a lifetime. No fin aid at NYU so I have to appeal, really good grants at Carl, and hopefully a lot at ND. White, male, apparently smart. Unconventional, able to make friends while being hated by people for his views he can't get across correctly, originally wanted to compose music for video games nd movies but USC rejected him much to his chagrin. Wants to major in comp sci music comp and minor in Chinese. Please help me, whom is he.</p>

<p>Please elaborate on the “laid back non restrictive nature” of Carleton? </p>

<p>I would go with the cheapest, honestly. All three will provide the same amazing foundation to your needs</p>

<p>Mainly the lack of a parietal system and the fact that my teacher, whom I quoted in my essay, said that the school was “too liberal” when he attended. That environment appeals to me, and I have heard great things from a friend who attends as well. I’m quite open-minded though, despite being left-leaning, and don’t mind taking theology courses at ND. I just don’t want to have any remorse after I choose one :/</p>

<p>My overriding suggestion is that you prioritize where you most see yourself fitting in. Be careful not to fall prey to the ego gratification associated with Notre Dame’s hot pursuit or the uniqueness of your admission to NYU Shanghai. A few weeks into freshman year these points will seem insignificant in the greater scheme of college life that opens itself before you.</p>

<p>Academically, Carleton will serve anyone’s comp sci interests extraordinarily well. The program tends to be a good deal deeper, less superficially pragmatic, than those at many other top tier schools, is very well respected in higher academics and industry, and, not surprisingly, kids do very well both placing into grad programs and the Googleplex of tech companies out there. Music is well supported by a host of full and part timers - having the St. Paul Chamber and Minnesota Orchestra just up 35 certainly helps, that along with a host of club music venues in the Twin Cities.</p>

<p>Taking us on to China…
NYU Shanghai may seem “the adventure of a lifetime,” but I’d suggest you could have that adventure without sacrificing another. I know nothing of the details of the new Shanghai school, but I have followed the controversy surrounding its opening (and that of similar satellite campuses). NYU faculty last week cast a vote of no-confidence in President Sexton for a host of reasons, one of which centered around concerns that Shanghai and related campuses are not ready for prime-time - worry that academically they won’t hold up to the rigor, depth and breath of the NY campus and that the Chinese government’s vision of academic freedom might not parallel US standards. I’d argue you could still have TWO adventures of a lifetime: one spending 3 years in Northfield or South Bend and a second spending one year studying abroad in Shanghai (or wherever else, by then, your interests may choose to take you).</p>

<p>Whatever the future holds for you, Carl-Domer-Violet, best of luck :)</p>

<p>Wow. This was an EXCELLENT response. In fact, all of these were. They really put things into better perspective for me. My last concern is the Glynn family honors program at ND. Could anybody tell me if that should be a deciding factor?? Also, if I end up getting more money at ND, should that be a big factor?? I am an atheist, but I’m open minded and don’t care what people believe in too much, though I am liberal.</p>

<p>Another concern I have is becoming fluent in Chinese. Is that still possible??</p>

<p>More than possible, likely.</p>

<p>Because of the trimester system you’ll be able to choose between 1/3, 1/2, 2/3 and full year study abroad options. About 70% of the school participates in off-campus study. Couldn’t imagine you wouldn’t. Carleton runs their own Fall program and allows participation in Duke, Middlebury, Columbia and commercial programs of varying lengths. </p>

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