<p>Illinois job/salary placement report.</p>
<p>Avg for computer engineering undergrad--$68,800. Not bad.</p>
<p>Comp Sci-over $70,000</p>
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I would also say MIT invented the internet in a way as they were a driving force behind it
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Wouldn't you say UIUC has a hand in it too with Mosaic?</p>
<p>promemorex, have you been accepted at CMU?</p>
<p>Followup to post 21. Starting salaries from CMU Career Center: </p>
<p>ECE avg -- $68,459</p>
<p>Computer Science avg -- $75,848</p>
<p>You'll do fine most likely coming from either school.</p>
<p>hey promemorex, what are your stats? I applied to both schools too, but for a different program.</p>
<p>"Wouldn't you say UIUC has a hand in it too with Mosaic?"</p>
<p>Yea sure, and there's also ARPA and Al Gore.</p>
<p>if you would enjoy living in the middle of smelly corn fields for 4 years of your life with freezing weather and a homogenous, dull student population, then by all means go to uiuc.</p>
<p>Better than 4 years locked up in the cold with nerds and not a hot girl for miles..</p>
<p>yeah that's true. uiuc would have much more attractive girls.</p>
<p>It's kind of funny how often people bring up the "hot girls" factor in a bunch of different threads about in choosing colleges. Something you never see in Fiske's or the Princeton Review. I wonder if it really plays a factor in our final decision, even if subconsciously in some way.</p>
<p>CMU has the edge over Illinois, but both are very respectable. Go with what fits.</p>
<p>Barrons, well at Illinois, the nerds there are the ECE and CS majors, so they don't stand a chance at the hot girls anyway.</p>
<p>"Locked in the cold"? Currently it's 8 degrees F in Champagne Illinois. The high will be about 16.</p>
<p>Pittsburgh it's currently 20 degrees, high 27. Pittsburgh weather is no bonus, but I think C-U weather is even worse (continental climate----very cold winters and hot summers).</p>
<p>But it's a sunny dry cold. Pitt is cold, gray and damp.</p>
<p>I think the weather is about the same in UIUC/CMU</p>
<p>I know plenty about CMU, look at the cross-admit numbers, even for SCS, yield is no where near the other engineering schools. Just because your son/daughter chose it, doesn't make it a more desirable school than Stanford or MIT. I just stated a fact, I am an engineer. </p>
<p>And I hate people who assume they always know more than other people.</p>
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I know plenty about CMU, look at the cross-admit numbers, even for SCS, yield is no where near the other engineering schools.
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<p>Yield isn't a very accurate estimate of the universal desirability of a school. Flagships usually have a yield of 50% or higher, but many universities (especially privates) just below the Ivies have atrocious yield rates of 20-30% because most people use them as Ivy backups. CMU definitely suffers more than UIUC from this effect. I'm not saying one is better than the other, just that CMU faces challenges UIUC does not.</p>
<p>No one said MIT and Stanford weren't more desirable than CMU. They are. Not many can make it into those schools. If CMU grabs their rejects, hey I don't think that's too bad.</p>
<p>I think the choice here, since finances aren't a consideration, is atmosphere outside the classroom.</p>
<p>It would be nice if I get some of these concerns addressed =)</p>
<p>I'm asking about Computer Engineering/Electrical Engineering. Unfortunately my parents are really stingy/poor so I'm unable to visit CMU. I don't really know much about CMU apart from the brochures they sent me and what I've read online.</p>
<p>I've gone to UIUC before for a competition, but I don't think I really got a good view of the whole campus. I've only seen stuff around the "quad". I live in Illinois and it seems like a lot of people that i know are going to UIUC. Will it be high school all over again?</p>
<p>One thing that I am concerned of if I go to UIUC is the class sizes. I've heard people say that there can be up to 600 people in 1 class. I wasn't sure what class that was but I hope it isn't an engineering one. Another thing is that UIUC is located in farmland area. I don't see how I can get a job there or even get an internship if there is no businesses there.</p>
<p>I hear that CMU has a bad Male to Female ratio and the school is composed of a lot of Asians (not saying that is a bad thing), but where is the diversity. I am also concerned about the quality of it's engineering courses. Is it superior than UIUC? But then again does undergraduate education really matter? I don't even know if I am going to go to graduate school because 8 years in college is just too much...</p>
<p>I know that Bill Gates once said that most of the people he hires is from UIUC, but I think that's just because UIUC has the biggest pool of engineers there.</p>
<p>I just want what you guys think about both of those schools.</p>
<p>If you read carefully all your questions that can be answered have been here. Why would Gates go more than half way across the country when there are plenty of engineering programs on the west coast? Gates looks for the best around the world. The fact that UI is #1 is pretty good no matter how large it is.</p>
<p>Four yrs ago Bill Gates went on a speaking tour of college campuses. Point of the tour...to stress that computer science education (I know you're asking about CEng but this is similar enough to make a point) is still worthwhile in spite of dropping enrollment. The 5 colleges he chose for his tour --- Illinois, Carnegie Mellon, Cornell, Harvard, MIT. Microsoft recruits heavily from all these schools. "Quality" of courses at either school---I don't think you have much to worry about.</p>
<p>CMU is 61/39 m/f
Also from 2009 usnews: 24% asian. 14% international. 5% hispanic, 5% black. That's not diverse?</p>
<p>Illinois 53/47 m/f
13% asian, 5% international, 7% hispanic, 7% black.</p>