<p>toomuchpressure, then EGL is good for you. </p>
<p>GoBlue81: EGL is very very highly regarded. It's ridiculous because out of the class of 32 last year (tauber has some grad program and dual MBA/MSE program), 8 of them were undergrads. 2 went to mckinsey, 2 went to dell, 1 went to deutshe bank and I forgot the other 3 but it's on the EGL leaflet. pretty amazing if you ask me</p>
<p>Toomuchpressure, assuming you get your predicted scores on the APs, you should get roughly 30 credits. With those you should be able to double major in Business and Engineering in under 5 years.</p>
<p>Sounds good; thanks a lot, gentlemen/women.</p>
<p>honestly though, if you can get into EGL, DO EGL. It is run by the tauber institute which is the joint institute run by both the business and engineering school (they have an office on tappan street and also on north campus). Extremely selective and prestigious, around 10 people per class. You have more prospect being an EGL grad than any Ross or COE grads. They have something like a 30 company industry board that advices the program, a program of less than 40 students!. I just looked up the rest of the companies, 2 Mckinsey, 2 dell, 1 D bank, 2 ZS associates and 1 PWC. What kind of placement rate is that?? lol.</p>
<p>Yea, I spent about half an hour looking at the site today and talking to my dad about it, it looks badass and something that would really cater towards me. </p>
<p>Just a random question about the Credit page (Michigan</a> Engineering | AP and IB Credit). </p>
<p>Next to some of the credits it says SS, FE, HU. What do these letters mean? Do those scores go towards fulfilling a specific type of distribution requirement or something?</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>SS = social science
FE = free elective
HU = humanities</p>
<p>You need 16 social Science and humanities credits to graduate, of which 6 has to be humanities, 6 has to be social science. You need to do a sequence, which means you need to take a 300 level class in either social science or humanities, whichever you are better at.</p>
<p>You also need 9 free elective credits to graduate, but it doesnt really matter because most people have way too many free electives anyway</p>
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I just looked up the rest of the companies, 2 Mckinsey, 2 dell, 1 D bank, 2 ZS associates and 1 PWC.
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<p>Is this supposed to be really good? It doesn't really stand out from the results of b-school people I know. As an engineer, there's not really any thing there I would be interested in, and Dell is definitely not at the top of (my) list of desirable companies.</p>
<p>Another quick question: How do Michigan engineering graduates fare in graduate school (master's) placement? I'm planning on applying straight out of college and aiming for MIT/Stanford (if i decide to pursue the master's and don't get in to the EGL program). </p>
<p>Though I know that a high GPA and good research at any well-known engineering university will be a big boost, would a school like Carnegie Mellon look better on a resume than Michigan when applying for grad school? I have no reason to suspect so but what do you guys think? </p>
<p>Also, how hard is to get UROPs at Michigan? I'm looking forward to doing a good amount of research there (never done research before). What year do you have to be to have a good chance at a UROP? </p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>"Is this supposed to be really good? It doesn't really stand out from the results of b-school people I know. As an engineer, there's not really any thing there I would be interested in, and Dell is definitely not at the top of (my) list of desirable companies."</p>
<p>2 out of 8 got into Mckinsey (that's pretty amazing itself).
1 out of 8 got into DB IBD.
So there 3 out of 8 got into the most saught after jobs by b-school students.
ZS is a pretty prestigious consulting firm that specializies in the biotech field and 2 out of 8 got in there (so I would imagine biomed majors with an interest in business would kill to work there)</p>
<p>The dells are as operations/supply chain managers and chose dell because they did their tauber project at dell. (you dont start in management ranks as a fresh hire who has not much experience typically, so that's quite a feat, also, on the leaflet it says 62.5% of the graduates accepted positions working for their tauber project company, so I am pretty sure there's an attraction to it?)</p>
<p>PWC is big four.</p>
<p>so I am pretty sure that's really good.</p>
<p>UROP is designed for entering Freshmen, so your chances of getting into UROP are good, assuming you apply for it as soon as possible. Keep in mind that your first year will be primarily clerical and administrative. You will get some interesting work, but for the most part, you will be doing data crunching and other boring work. Typically, your second year will be more fun and challenging. But don't let that put you off. It is a great way to start your research experience. Many UROP students get other research opportunities toward the Junior and Senior years thanks to the foundation they built during their Freshman and Sophomore years as UROP participants.</p>
<p>Also check out the Michigan Research Community. That program also offers excellent research opporunities for undergrads. </p>
<p>As for graduate placement, Michigan's lofty ranking in Engineering is a direct product of the Engineering academic community, so it is obviously very highly regarded. If you maintain a high GPA and do well on the GRE, you should nothave too much trouble getting into a top 10 Engineering program. Of course, there are no guarantees with MIT and Stanford, but they are both within the realm of reality.</p>
<p>sorry if this is off topic... </p>
<p>i just checked that link up there about AP credits...
Michigan does not give credits for AP env. science exam/.?</p>
<p>The only difference I can see is in size of the student population. Michigan is larger but that's offset by two factors. First, Ann Arbor is a great college town with the University truly part of the surrounding community. Second, the engineering school along with the school of music, sits on North Campus, a wooded area a five minute shuttle ride from main campus, (you could walk it on a nice day).</p>
<p>If you must play the prestige game, as pointed out, Michigan has a world renowned Engineering program, as does CMU. Michigan has an internationally recognized business school consistently ranked in the top 10, (usually top 5), versus CMU's slightly lower ranking. Finally, last season aside, Michigan has a far better football team.</p>
<p>Both schools are sensational. Both will give you the opportunity for a great education. You have a difficult but pleasant decision in front of you. Good Luck.</p>
<p>Thanks for all the comments I think I'm going to end up picking Michigan. Really look forward to next year!</p>