<p>For the first set of data, I imagine it's from that optional question they ask at the end of applications.</p>
<p>Carnegie</a> Mellon - Institutional Research & Analysis</p>
<p>There's a link to their factbooks. I imagine that it all does come from the optional questions about where else are you applying, as I don't think there's any other ethical way to go about collecting that data.</p>
<p>That list seems to make a lot of sense. When I was at Michigan, it seems like many out of state students also got into CMU. </p>
<p>I went to high school in new york, and cmu and cornell seems to have a lot of overlap, with nyu. Penn State is probably by far the most overlap, since it's in PA.</p>
<p>CMU and Cornell definitely overlap more on the tech side and NYU overlaps more with the arts and business side. It is hard to judge a school's peers when this pre-professional school is basically many schools combined into one, (imagine Stern combined with a mediocre liberal arts school but with Cornell-like Engineering and then add on a top tier Fine Arts program).</p>
<p>They shoud probably just drop HSS in my opinion and shoot CMU up in the rankings :)</p>
<p>Alexandre, what does the instituion John Nash attended have to do with John Nash? Where do you people get the idea that the university changes you????? Have you considered it might just as easily have stunted him?</p>
<p>I have yet to hear or read <em>anyone</em> say the key to their success was the institution they attended.</p>
<p>Dunnin, I don't think a university changes a person. But when three students from CMU go on to win the Nobel Prize in Economics, it says something about the department. And unlike Chemistry, Literature, Medicine and Physics, the Nobel Prize in Economics has not been awarded since the early 1900s. Those three won the Prize in the last 15 years.</p>
<p>CMU has the best CompSci program in the country..</p>
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<p>I think it's more accurate to say it has one of the best--tied with Berkeley, Stanford, and probably MIT. If there's any one school that would win the "best CS program" award, it'd probably be Stanford, for its strength in CS (faculty, students, facilities, etc.), its contributions to technology and computer science, and its proximity and close ties to Silicon Valley.</p>
<p>CMU vs. Stanford (two giants in the autonomous robots world) with MIT as a up and coming contender in the DARPA grand challenge.</p>
<p>Tartan Racing, CMU again with the first place finish, Stanford 2nd, MIT Fourth, Cornell Sixth.</p>
<p>CMU wins.</p>
<p>^^ pshh, CS isn't even that concerned with robots/robotics. Go next door to EE/CS. :p</p>
<p>Non only does CMU rock in just one department, it even rocks in EE and CS.</p>
<p>COOL!! In that competition, it was all or nothing, basically lines and lines of code writing followed by ending trials of testing and retesting. Most of the sensor and detectors are hard wired by EE ppl, but to actually link it a and sync it with everything and to ensure everything worked in harmony was the job of the programmer...</p>
<p>CMU and Stanford, MIT Cornell are all ammong the best for CS...happy.</p>
<p>Don't forget the guy that's leading the DARPA challenge at Stanford used to be a CMU professor. Apparently he left CMU because they wouldn't put him on an accelerated tenure track.</p>
<p>I would put CMU between Georgia Tech and Caltech</p>
<p>In computer science, Stanford is the best of the best. After Stanford, Berkeley, MIT, and CMU fight for the 2nd place.</p>
<p>1) According to the Ph.D program ranking by National Research Council, the best CS programs are:
Stanford>MIT>Berkeley>CMU</p>
<p>2) Stanford has most Turing awards ties (18 winners), without counting the visiting professors.</p>
<p>3) Stanford has contributed to a lot of mile stone inventions, such as microprosessor, DSL broadband internet connection, SUN work station, google search engine, AltaVista search engine, 56K modem, multiprotocol internet router, ethernet, digital music synthesis, RISC, STANLEY driverless car, Stanford arm, Stanford cart, TCP/IP internet protocol, expert system, TEX, microsoft word, computer mouse, SQL, .....</p>
<p>4) Stanford has contributed most to IT industry: HP, GOOGLE, YAHOO, NETSCAPE, SUN, CISCO.</p>
<p>5) look at another link: the world leading INFO TECH LABs from survey on IT professionals conducted by bussiness week. Again, Stanford CS is #1.
06/23/97</a> TABLE: The World's Leading Info Tech Research Labs</p>
<p>The most desired Computer labs, ranked by NEWS WEEK in 1997, according to a survey on IT professionals.</p>
<p>Business Week's poll included this question: If you were 35 and had just won
the first Nobel Prize for Information Technology, triggering invitations to any
lab of your choice, which one would you pick? Most researchers didn't chose the
lab where they work. Here are the complete results, with labs ranked within
four separate research categories. See
06/23/97</a> TABLE: The 'X-Lab' List (Ranked by Category)</p>
<p>COMPUTER SCIENCE</p>
<p>1st Choice: Stanford University</p>
<p>2nd Choices: Microsoft Research, University of California-Berkeley</p>
<p>3rd Choice: Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) Laboratory for
Computer Science (LCS)</p>
<p>4th Choice: Carnegie Mellon University</p>
<p>5th Choices: AT&T Labs, Bell Labs (Lucent), MIT Media Lab, Xerox Palo Alto
Research Center (PARC)</p>
<p>TELECOMMUNICATIONS, NETWORKING, GROUPWARE</p>
<p>1st Choice: Bell Labs (Lucent)</p>
<p>2nd Choice: Stanford</p>
<p>3rd Choices: MIT LCS, Xerox PARC</p>
<p>4th Choice: AT&T Labs</p>
<p>5th Choice: University of Southern California</p>
<p>ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE, ROBOTICS, SPEECH, INTERFACES </p>
<p>1st Choice: Stanford</p>
<p>2nd Choices: Carnegie Mellon University, MIT AI Lab</p>
<p>3rd Choices: Microsoft Research, Xerox PARC</p>
<p>4th Choices: AT&T Labs, IBM Research, MIT Media Lab</p>
<p>5th Choices: CMU Robotics Institute, Swiss Machine Learning Research
Institute (IDSIA), MIT LCS, University of Michigan</p>
<p>BIOLOGICALLY INSPIRED: ARTIFICIAL LIFE, GENETIC ALGORITHMS</p>
<p>1st Choice: Santa Fe Institute</p>
<p>2nd Choice: Stanford</p>
<p>3rd Choice: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (EPFL, Lausanne)</p>
<p>4th Choices: IDSIA, University of North Carolina, University of Sussex (UK)</p>
<p>5th Choices: Natural Selection Inc., Naval Research Lab, UC-San Diego,
University of Illinois</p>
<p>you know why you wouldn't think of CMU as that caliber? the food. they have a book in their campus store called "surviving the food at Carnegie Mellon." you wouldn't think it's such a big deal, but bad grub can drive away the brightest of minds....</p>
<p>CMU is underrated due to it not being particularly strong in the humanties, but it’s other programs are top-notch.</p>
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<p>Aside from one specialty, Duke's economics program, while good, isn't in the top 10-15 (maybe top 20). </p>
<p>CMU's program is just as good as Duke's, if not better.</p>
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4) Stanford has contributed most to IT industry: HP, GOOGLE, YAHOO, NETSCAPE, SUN, CISCO.
From LinkedIn, each company lists its employee "TOP SCHOOLS"
HP - both Berkeley and Stanford have less than 1% representation in the company
Google - both Berkeley and Stanford have 4% representation in the company
Microsoft - UW 5%, WState 4%, Berkeley 1%, Stanford is not among the top schools
Yahoo - Berkeley 3%, Stanford 2%
Sun - Berkeley 2%, Stanford 1%
CISCO - Both at 1%</p>
<p>How did Stanford contribute most to the industry?</p>
<p>^^ the founders and other key people in creating these organizations, in addition to the technology and such developed at Stanford. Compared to Berkeley, UW, and WState, Stanford is very small, producing fewer grads not only in general but in computer science. That combined with the fact that these companies are huge, and it's not surprising that Stanford might have 1-2% less than others. That doesn't mean that Stanford wasn't a major contributor to their success; in fact, even now, Stanford contributes much to them, by feeding students, faculty, and innovations developed at Stanford's labs.</p>
<p>In other threads I have stated that Cornell is one of CMU's peers. The recently released Payscale data would seem to support my contention, at least in the eyes of employers.</p>
<p>Beginning Pay, Mid-Career Pay </p>
<p>$60,300, $110,000 Cornell</p>
<p>$61,800, $111,000 Carnegie Mellon</p>