Chance ED wharton

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<p>UW GPA: 3.857
W GPA: 4.99</p>

<p>IB STUDENT diploma candidate!</p>

<p>ACT- 32</p>

<p>SAT I-2130
CR-650
W-720 - 11 essay
M-760</p>

<p>SAT II
mathII-800
US hist- 720</p>

<p>Class rank- 12 out of 170</p>

<p>ethnicity- persian</p>

<p>AP's- 3 world history, 5 statistics, 4 computer science, 5 AB calculus, 5 bc calculus, 3 english, 5 psych, 4 physics, 4 us history</p>

<p>IB's- dont know yet</p>

<p>Courses(HARDEST EVER):
FRESHMAN- English 2 honors, Precal honors, AP World, Spanish 1 cp(didnt offer honors), Biology honors, Physical Science honors, PE(required)
SOPHOMORE- English 3 honors, AP AB calc, AP stats, AP compsci, Chemistry honors, Gov/econ Honors, Spanish 2 cp(didnt offer honors)
JUNIOR- IB Chem, IB Spanish, AP physics c, AP BC calc, AP US hist, IB Design, AP English
SENIOR- IB Theory of Kno, IB math HL, AP/IB psych, IB english HL, IB spanish SL, AP/IB physics E&M SL, IB design HL</p>

<p>ECs-
played as a starter on the tennis team for all four years, team captain for 2 years, mvp sophomore year, mvp junior year, all region freshman sophomore and junior year, player of the year junior year</p>

<p>FOUNDER AND PRESIDENT of the sponsorship club that contacts different companies around the school to donate money for the underfunded programs at the school like the paper shortage which directly affects the students. basically a fundraising club. </p>

<p>forensics active member</p>

<p>cross country- freshman year, junior year, senior year</p>

<p>student council- freshman class vice president, member at large sophomore year, junior class vice president, senior class vice president</p>

<p>interact treasurer junior and senior year</p>

<p>national honors society member</p>

<p>ap scholar with distinciton</p>

<p>community service 90 hours</p>

<p>student of the month two years</p>

<p>IB Diploma candidate</p>

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<p>you have leadership positions…your numbers aren’t exactly at the wharton level, though. ORM doesn’t help. location? hopefully not CA.</p>

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<p>what does ORM mean? i am in SC</p>

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<p>ORM stands for over-represented minority. I almost assumed that potential Penn applicants would know the basics of obtaining information – google.</p>

<p>Judging from your standarized test scores and class ranks I am almost tempted to say definitively “Not Wharton.” Even with a great essay I do not think that you will have much chance without bumping your SAT I to around the 2300’s.</p>

<p>I hope you learned something about yourself going through the IB Programme. Unlike the AP, IB is not so much a test syllabus, but instead stresses a wholistic approach to synthesizing knowledge. I know for a fact that IB’s philosophy is very much in line with that of Penn’s. You should be able to extract from your (IB) experience to produce some nice essays.</p>

<p>Overall I would suggest trying out for the College, which should be more within reach. Good luck either way.</p>

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<p>I would say you have a chance. The only thing hurting you is your rank and scores. Try to shoot for a 34 or 2200+. Extra curriculers are on par for sure though.</p>

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<p>To Cougar09:
ECs are on par for Wharton? 90 hours of community service is not even enough to get you an IB Diploma! There are many people who are academically distinguished, and the topic starter definitely displays a solid academic record. Sadly almost every applicant is heavily involved in student council and have many other meaningful activities going on at the same time. The College acceptance should not be much of a problem, but from my understanding Wharton is not to be obtained that easily.</p>

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<p>I said on par as in I don’t believe they give a reason for rejection if the academics were there. Without good academics, extracurriculars don’t even matter in my opinion. So yes they aren’t spectacular, but I don’t think they would get him rejected IF he had say 2300+ and top 2 rank. I’m interested in your opinion dsi .</p>

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<p>With that said, I still think he has a slim chance ED, which in my opinion is good at a school like Wharton .</p>

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<p>To Cougar09:</p>

<p>His academics are there. AP and IB Diploma are insane. Therefore, the admissions at Penn would have no reason to reject him (on academic grounds) as you said. Yet, it is EC, good essays, and good recommendation that gets one <em>accepted</em>. (Remember, not rejected and accepted are subtly different). I just think that even if he passes the first several rounds of elimination, in the end when his package is laid side by side with others who also made it through the elimination, I see little reason to grant him an acceptance over others. Of course, this is based on an unprofessional overview of his ECs, which does not include recommendations and essays. Either way, with his standarized test scores as is, I do not think Wharton would be too wise a choice.</p>

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<p>thanks everyone for all of your honest opinions.</p>

<p>To DSI- 90 hours of community service is enough to get your IB diploma. IB requires 150 hours of CAS hours which stands for Community Action Service. So the 150 can be divided into hours into sports at school, hours into music, hours into community service, etc. so with that said 90 hours is enough for me seeing as how i have over 300 hours of tennis and cross country practice and matches.</p>

<p>The college is not one of my options seeing as i want to go into business and do not wish to take the risk of transferring into the wharton school later on. UVA is my other top choice which as an instate student, it shouldnt be hard to get into.</p>

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<p>also, the IB school that i go to is very competitive. to get top 5, one would have to get straight 100’s throughout their sophomore and junior year. </p>

<p>My transcript does show major improvements seeing as how i got a C in 8th grade(which i didnt even think was gonna be on my hs transcript) and a couple of b’s freshman year. Other than that i have received a 97.5 unweighted average my junior year.</p>

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<p>Ehh 90 Hours is a extremely late start on volunteering. Many of my friends go to “what is ranked as” (although I don’t care about ranking) but “what is ranked as” the best IB school. Their community service is pretty much 300+ hours, they don’t care about the IB requirement. But your volunteering is too low, even if you fulfills your IB requirement of 150.
Note colleges don’t care about how many hours you put into CAS. Sports, music and volunteering are evaluated differently. Community service is usually evaluated with a bigger emphasis than Music and sometimes sports unless you are extremely good like All-State or All-American.</p>

<p>And I have to say your SAT an ACT are low, trying to get into Warton is like trying to get into Harvard.
Wharton doesn’t care about weighted GPA.</p>

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<p>cd i think your stand on how wharton doesn’t care about weighted gpa is totally wrong. With regards to the school that you go to and how each county weights the gpa, the general trend is that if you take more rigorous courses, your weighted gpa goes up. If wharton didnt care about weighted gpa then i could have went to a school that didnt offer as many ap courses and get high a’s in all of them easily. while my gpa is a little low for wharton, i believe that if they compare me to a 4.0 student top 5 out of 600 in their class that didnt have a rigorous courseload, then i would outshine them. It would be very easy for me to transfer schools my senior year and be number 1 in the class out of 600 in that school bc of my weighted gpa and rigorous course load.</p>

<p>So please take into perspective that the courses could not be any more rigorous than the ones i have taken.</p>

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<p>Hmm lets think about that, I go to a high school that sends one kid to Wharton each year. This year we have 7 kids that are going to UPenn. Guess what? we don’t weight GPA so doesn’t half of the other school around my area. And the IB schools that I know don’t weight either. And there are many school like us. I also have to say your statement is wrong because there are many different ways school weight their GPA, some schools give you a 5.0 some school gives 4.5 some schools don’t (can I ask what way does your school weight your GPA). Oh and the kid that got into Wharton from my school this year? He has a IB diploma too. So he didn’t have a weighted GPA but he still got in, that shows that Wharton could still tell the difference between students without the need of weighted GPA. </p>

<p>“So please take into perspective that the courses could not be any more rigorous than the ones i have taken.”
I would also have to say that this is wrong too. There are 4 rising seniors that are already finished Math HL. We had one graduating senior that had to take IB Further Studies in Mathematics because he had already taken BC Calc, Linear, Discrete, Multi-variable Calc and Numerical methods. And there are numerous Juniors and Sophmores in the same path. So I would say don’t think that there can’t be any more rigorous schedule than yours. I do agree your schedule is rigorous but you can’t say there are ones that can’t be more rigorous. And don’t say other public school because there are students in public schools that I know that are more rigorous.</p>

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<p>well in SC and in most other states, the courses are weighted so that a student would not feel cheated if he took all hard ap/ib courses while another student took all regular courses. I would definitely be mad if someone who didnt take any rigorous courses was ranked higher than me if for example we got the same grades. The system that you have wherever you live that doesn’t weight according to the rigor of the course seems extremely stupid in my opinion because a student would not have the incentive to take harder classes bc he or she would like to be high in class rank. So they take the easy way out with all easy courses. The reason for weighted grades is simply for that reason; students dont want to feel cheated by taking harder courses. you can’t simply make a bold statement that wharton does not care about weighted gpa because one, you dont work for the admissions office, and two, your relying on what you see and hear about students in your area. The admissions officer will get a profile on how each school weights and they take that into consideration.</p>

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<p>and i stand corrected, i did not know that there was a IB math class after HL</p>

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<p>IB Math HL is a joke, even with Further Maths, if the teacher only sticks to the bare bones of the curriculum.</p>

<p>I would say aztennisplaya1’s courses are rigorous <em>enough</em>. Fulfilling all the requirements that IB dumps on one while completing AP courses are pretty tough. Yet, when compared internationally, the relatively low community service hours and standarized test scores will really hold one back from Wharton.</p>

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<p>well i heard the IB exam is ridiculous for HL math. nobody at our school has received a 7 (highest score) in 6 years.</p>

<p>thanks for all your replies and opinions</p>

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<p>IB Math HL exam is to IB students as a math contest is to a typical “regular” class, simple as that.</p>

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<p>IB HL is really difficult to teach. Most of our teacher’s have been teaching IBs for years so we have a good sense of what we are teaching. Our linear algebra and descrete class is the most popular class after BC Calc (about 10-15) kids take it each year (note my school is actually really small, 100 so people). We have insane math geniuses in my school. This senior is one of the best math student in the world qualifying to the USAMO since 7th grade. We also have a freshman that qualified for MOP. So that’s the reason why our school has all these math classes and there are kids that score 7 on the HL test. The teacher is really good for our Linear and Discrete class but it does become to teach after Linear and Discrete. No the less, you’ll be fine for the HL test. There are some easy problems that I was able to solve during my freshman year and so can many other people, including you because they were taught during pre-calc (like matrix).</p>