Chance for BS/MD please?

Pre-Med & Medical School Multiple Degree Programs
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<p>School Type: Public in Tennessee
Race/Gender: Asian male
Prospective Major: Biology Pre-med
Unweighted GPA: 4.0
Class rank: 1 out of 400ish (only valedictorian)
SAT I: CR 740, M 800, W 800 (one sitting)
SAT II: MathII 800, Chemistry 800
ACT: (English, Math, Reading, Science, Writing) 35, 36, 34, 33, 10 essay
or 36, 36, 34, 35 no writing
APs: World History (5) Statistics (5) Chemistry (5), US Government (5)</p>

<p>Senior Year Coarseload: AP Literature, AP Physics B, AP Calc BC, AP Comp Sci, Honors Senior Spanish (highest offered), AP Psychology</p>

<p>Awards: none really, NM Finalist probably, AP Scholar with Honors, placed top 100 at NFL National debate tournament, 3rd place at state debate</p>

<p>Extracurriculars: Debate (President 12, state and national qualifier, bunch of awards), piano (multiple top state finishes, few scholarship awards), NHS, Beta Chi Pi, Mu Alpha Theta (publicity 10, president 11 and 12), Culture club (co-founder, co-president 11and 12)
Job/Work: none
Volunteer: Hospital volunteer, church, school not many hours ~75 hours
Summer Activites:
before 9th grade: Summer school and academic talent search (UNR 6 college credits)
before 10th grade: travel
before 11th grade: biochemistry research ~500 hours
before 12th grade: hospital volunteer, same biochem research internship ~200 hours</p>

<p>Could somebody please give me their opinion on my chances plus any personal recommendations for: Brown PLME, Northwestern HPME, Case Western PPSP, UMKC 6year, and BU Accelerated Med. Thanks!</p>

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<p>Brown PLME and NU HPME - reach</p>

<p>All others - it comes down to whether anyone invites you to interview. If you get a bunch, you will most likely get one or more. If you get one or two, it becomes hard.</p>

<p>So if you are serious about doing BS/MD, you need a lot more apps. If you only want to pursue these and you are ok going through BS first, then you are ok with your limited choice.</p>

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<p>You should be able to get interviews at all of the places you mentioned (except for Brown which doesn’t give interviews) after which your chances are based solely on interview performance.) If I were to guess I’d say you’ll get in BU/UMKC for sure. You’ll have decent chances at Northwestern. Brown is very random and comes down a lot to essay, and Case is pretty tough. Overall though, you’re in decent shape. As post above said, if you’re serius about Bs/MD then its worth applying to more, but if you only plan to do top bs/md otherwise normal undergrad then your limited list is fine.</p>

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<p>Thank you, texaspg and breaker746! I think the interviews will be critical in the final decision, but to increase my chances of even getting the interview, are there any suggestions for activites besides the usual research, hospital volunteer, and shadowing? I don’t want to rely solely on BSMD programs, so I probably will end up going the regular way like 99% of doctors, but are there suggestions of other BSMD programs that might be good? Thanks!</p>

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<p>shadowing, research and hospital volunteering are the pillars of your BS/MD application outside of your academics and regular ECs. A variety in shadowing and volunteering will help you in your essays and interviews. If you have a published paper or poster, that can help.</p>

<p>You may also want to look into various medical ethics questions. Some are taking the MMI route or what they call multiple mini interviews where you get to evaluate a scenario and answer a question at each booth. I am not certain which of the BS/MD schools are using this method but I have heard some do.</p>

<p>[The</a> Multiple Mini-Interview for Medical School Admissions](<a href=“http://studentdoctor.net/2011/01/the-multiple-mini-interview-for-medical-school-admissions/]The”>http://studentdoctor.net/2011/01/the-multiple-mini-interview-for-medical-school-admissions/)</p>

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<p>Those are very good stats, but like other posters said, those are all top BS/MD programs, which are very hard to get into.</p>

<p>Another prestigious BS/MD program that you seemed to have left out is University of Rochester REMS. However, for REMS, I think about 500 apply, 50 get an interview, and only 10-20 are accepted. You have a lot of research experience, and REMS LOVES that. I would recommend applying to that.</p>

<p>I would at least apply to one BS/MD that is relatively easy to get into. Drexel University College of Medicine comes to mind, and has several affiliated undergraduate schools that OOS students can apply to.</p>

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<p>Penn State/Jefferson 6yr is another decent one, Pitt 8yr is also top notch. I think there’s something with Rice/Baylor that’s good. Drexel and Miami 7yr programs are also solid (I’d say same tier as BU). I think being co-published could really help you out, and also look in to EMT training which could also be beneficial for you. Good luck! Just curious, what kind of normal undergrad schools are you looking in to?</p>

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<p>REMS did not seem to have any preference for research, I got an interview with none. In terms of the “pillars” of the application (shadowing, research, hospital volunteering) many people are the same. Find something that makes you different and be able to write about it and talk about it if you get to the interview stage.</p>

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<p>^ It might look that way after going to half a dozen interviews but that’s the lot of them! :p</p>

<p>Many don’t ever get there because they have not planned this out at the beginning of high school. Those with high scores and solid credentials in those three areas make the cut to the interviews or further. </p>

<p>I have been told NU won’t call for an interview without a couple of summers of research and some sort of publication to account for.</p>

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<p>I would add about 6 more combined and a few UG’s that have full scholarship rides based on merit as a fall back plan since the interviews can be so subjective. </p>

<p>It can depend on if you and the interviewer "hit it off’, on the questions he or she ask that session, on if the interviewer already has a few favorites already picked out , etc.</p>

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<p>Sorry guys, I should clarify that I’m not absolutely bent on a combined program. Could anybody give me some suggestions on undergrads with a good pre-med program given my stats? I know that a good pre-med program is very subjective, but I would love any suggestions!</p>

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<p>WUSTL, JHU, Duke, all Ivies have very strong premed curricula. But then again, you also don’t need to break the bank financially. If you do well at your state school and do well on your GPA you can get into med schools without much difficulty. I haven’t mentioned schools out West as I really don’t know much about them.</p>

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<p>Thank you PsychoDad10, I’m about middle-income, so I don’t expect much in the way of financial aid, but I can’t really afford to be breaking the bank. I don’t consider myself above any schools, so does anybody have any suggestions on public universities or state schools with excellent premed programs?</p>

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<p>If you want small add Williams, Amherst and Swarthmore. When Larry Summers was
President of Harvard, he said he wanted his school (H) to be more like Williams.</p>

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<p>Davidxavi- have you run the financial calculators at some of these schools to get an idea of COA and EFC? Unfortunately, those with middle incomes tend to get squeezed, but if the school is known for meeting financial need, then it may be an option. Obviously, you’d need to sit down with your family and discuss the options.</p>

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<p>Sorry, Raycmr, are you referring to Williams College or College of William and Mary? I’ll definitely take a close look at the other two! Unfortunately, I’m only getting a few thousand on the financial aid calculators of private colleges, so I’m trying to keep an open mind for public universities that may be able to offer me a better financial package.</p>

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<p>If you have national merit, University of Alabama will give you a very good deal with only meal plan to be paid for or only part of it.</p>

<p>With your scores, you should be able to get free tuition from Pitt. </p>

<p>Vanderbilt may have some merit money that covers half tuition (nothing guaranteed).</p>

<p>You could go to University of Houston or UT Dallas free of cost as NMF.</p>

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<p>Williams college in Mass. Since financial considerations are important, Try Rutgers Honors since you are in the running for a Presidential scholarship. At the end of second year you could apply early to their med school. Try TCNJ combined or regular since you get a very premium education for 22k a year with R&B before any aid.</p>

<p>Now you should visit these schools ( this summer) and met the admission officers for your area of the country. Become know to them and to the head of the combined programs. It is like the NFL draft and they pick out their favorites for admission and for Presidential scholarships. My D even enclosed a photo on material she sent in beyond common app so admission officers would further remember her.</p>

<p>You should research the combined programs to see how much need and merit aid each gives since several are much better in that area than being regular bio majors. Again HYP only out of the 8 ivies give " need aid " up to 150k or 180k of a parents income with their billions of endowment money. Hope this helps.</p>

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<p>davidxavi,</p>

<p>you may need Physics SAT II grade.</p>

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<p>BigFire, could you please elaborate a little bit on why I might need the Physics SAT II test or maybe which programs prefer this?? I’m just a bit confused. Thanks!</p>